Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

“internalized-within-it” moving away

Chinese translation:

若非身历其境,锤炼描述, 内省深入后超脱是无法形容此过程的

Added to glossary by IC --
Mar 9, 2006 07:01
18 yrs ago
English term

“internalized-within-it” moving away

English to Chinese Art/Literary Poetry & Literature
The moves in Freud which we have been trying to replicate are an exceptionally visible model of the moves by which consciousness abolished the objects of thought, and it is impossible to describe this process without being implicated in it---that is, without the description itself being a kind of enfolded, or “internalized-within-it” moving away.

what is the meaning of "it is impossible to describe this process without being implicated in it---that is, without the description itself being a kind of enfolded, or 'internalized-within-it' moving away"?

Discussion

Mar 13, 2006:
it refers to without. without "internalized-wihin-it"
discourse (asker) Mar 13, 2006:
what does "moving away"refer to? what's its subject or object?
Naikei Wong Mar 9, 2006:
I think it means if the description is scripted with the language of the model itself, there can be no true escape / detachment... (a rather old idea, actually!)

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若非身历其境,锤炼描述, 内省深入后超脱是无法形容此过程的

"it is impossible to describe this process without being implicated in it---that is, without the description itself being a kind of enfolded, or 'internalized-within-it' moving away"
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English term (edited): it is impossible to describe this process without being implicated in it

假使超然其外, 就不可能歷述其過程.

without being implicated in it == without the description itself being a kind of enfolded, == or 'internalized-within-it' moving away

Like NKWong said, this is not a new idea.

BTW, to a certain extent, I am an anti-Freudian.
Peer comment(s):

agree Sud River : I prefer Woo's translation
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Thank you Sud!
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