Glossary entry (derived from question below)
May 1, 2009 22:58
15 yrs ago
English term
Germany
passion for technical excellence
Native in: Slovenian 
Works in: English to Slovenian, German to Slovenian, Slovenian to English, and 1 more.
plezometer
English
Science
Geology
water wells, underground water ways
This is a carry-over from Slovenian-English issue
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/slovenian_to_english/environment_e...
The 99% opinion is that it's a typo (> piezometer). I would agree, however there's an uncanny collection of plezometers around the subject of drill wells, underground waterways etc. Of course it could be an epidemy, started by one single typo some time ago and propagated by copycats...
Your comments warmly welcome.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/slovenian_to_english/environment_e...
The 99% opinion is that it's a typo (> piezometer). I would agree, however there's an uncanny collection of plezometers around the subject of drill wells, underground waterways etc. Of course it could be an epidemy, started by one single typo some time ago and propagated by copycats...
Your comments warmly welcome.
Responses
| 3 +4 | piezometer |
Mark Nathan
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| 4 -1 | Plezo meter and a Piezo meter are two different meters |
Gary D
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References
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Gary D
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Polangmar
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piezometer
Plezometer is not in any of my dictionaries.
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On a philosophical note, there are a plenty of things that you can prove do not exist.
For example, a sky scraper in the middle of Central Park. Just go and look, there is not one there.
Some words exist in certain languages and not in others (I mean direct translations).
And although I keep checking, I am pretty sure there is not ten million euros in my bank account!
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Note added at 16 hrs (2009-05-02 15:44:28 GMT)
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On a philosophical note, there are a plenty of things that you can prove do not exist.
For example, a sky scraper in the middle of Central Park. Just go and look, there is not one there.
Some words exist in certain languages and not in others (I mean direct translations).
And although I keep checking, I am pretty sure there is not ten million euros in my bank account!
Note from asker:
| "Plezometer is not in any of my dictionaries" - nor in any of mine. But that's no proof, just an "on the balance of probabilities" hypothesis. Which is why I posted the question in the first place. Note that a non-existence (of anything) is not proveable (sg). |
Peer comment(s):
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swisstell
: 15700 Google hits for piezometer, 29 (no doubt all typos) for plezometer
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Sabine Akabayov, PhD
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Yasutomo Kanazawa
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Gary D
: PDF] i-h8 tic?0 88di?lQ bZy6l.8 Of fin8 8and and 8izt abOV8 th8 ... File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML An almost Instantaneous response time Is obtained from plezo- meters In which the deflectlon of a diaphragm as a result of water pressure Is
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juvera
: There is Plezo, a Korean electronic games company, and Plezo Shenzhen, a Chinese telecommunication company, neither has got anything to do with the piezometer
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Polangmar
: The fact that something is not in a single dictionary doesn't prove anything. But your guess (at least it seems so as you didn't support your answer) is correct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezometer .
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It's harder to prove that something does not exist than it is to prove that it does exist. I think the statement "this word does not exist in any dictionaries" does carry some weight!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I checked with a colleague who is both a language expert and speleologist (a rare occurence, but then Slovenia with its Kras IS where speleology has started in the first place) and according to his research and ample experience, it is a typo. "
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Plezo meter and a Piezo meter are two different meters
One measures flow and the other measures pressure.
Field Test of the In Situ Permeable Ground Water Flow Sensor
water flow as determined from piezometer gradient measurements were compared with ground water flow .... to the applicable velocity meter. The gradients between .... Vel. -«-FS 2 Hor. V«t -a-Plezo.Hor.Vel. (low) -*-Plezo Hor. Vel. (High). Figure 10. .... nomena in its operation may limit its application in situ- ...
doi.wiley.com/10.1111/j.1745-6592.1997.tb01267.x -
Journal of Hydrology : Numerical simulation of field methods for ...
V. Kaleris et al. Journal of Hydrology 171 (1995) 319353 325 Borehok Gr p Aq. ..... 9o 89 eValuas measured in plezometer nest D under no pumping conditions . ... (a) Piezometer head profile used to simulate the natural vertical flow in ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/002216949406012T -
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You can't just dismiss something as a typo just because you did a google search and there was more of one than the other.
Plezo is a hydraulic water pressure reading in ground water, piezo is the flow rate of water near a water well or at the well head... As different as Volt meter is to amp meter in electricity [Click here to delete your reply]
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With a Plezo meter you get a better and more accurate reading as it reads the change in pressure quicker than a piezo meter would read a change in the volume in the flow of water. But as most people only want to know the flow rate this is why there are more topics on piezo meters. Plezo meters are used by technicians who want a more accurate and instantaneous reading. For instance They use Plezo meters and not piezo meters in areas prone to landslides, as they need to know the hydraulic pressure of the water in the ground and not the flow rate. If the Plezo reading is too high they will put plezo tubes in the ground for the reduction of pressure.
Plezo is also used in medicine for the same reason.... measuring pressure within a substance and not pressure from an outside source..
Document 10054519
This is done by passing hot water through a set of tubes on the outside of which ... Continuous monitoring of particulate matter (using a plezo balance) ...
tobaccodocuments.org/health_canada/10054519.html - 32k -
An almost Instantaneous response time Is obtained from plezo- ... Plastic tubes. F i g u r e 6 . 1 4 : T y p i c a l c i r c u i t f o r ...
www.1insaat.com/uploads/TrbBlogs/pdfs_2/28547_1207773521_75... -
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@ sibsab.. Are you saying a PDF file is less accurate than a google scan? and you should just dismiss something as a typo when there is a clear and defined fact that there is a difference. There are thousands of words which are different by one letter..
Field Test of the In Situ Permeable Ground Water Flow Sensor
water flow as determined from piezometer gradient measurements were compared with ground water flow .... to the applicable velocity meter. The gradients between .... Vel. -«-FS 2 Hor. V«t -a-Plezo.Hor.Vel. (low) -*-Plezo Hor. Vel. (High). Figure 10. .... nomena in its operation may limit its application in situ- ...
doi.wiley.com/10.1111/j.1745-6592.1997.tb01267.x -
Journal of Hydrology : Numerical simulation of field methods for ...
V. Kaleris et al. Journal of Hydrology 171 (1995) 319353 325 Borehok Gr p Aq. ..... 9o 89 eValuas measured in plezometer nest D under no pumping conditions . ... (a) Piezometer head profile used to simulate the natural vertical flow in ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/002216949406012T -
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You can't just dismiss something as a typo just because you did a google search and there was more of one than the other.
Plezo is a hydraulic water pressure reading in ground water, piezo is the flow rate of water near a water well or at the well head... As different as Volt meter is to amp meter in electricity [Click here to delete your reply]
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Note added at 22 hrs (2009-05-02 21:04:08 GMT)
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With a Plezo meter you get a better and more accurate reading as it reads the change in pressure quicker than a piezo meter would read a change in the volume in the flow of water. But as most people only want to know the flow rate this is why there are more topics on piezo meters. Plezo meters are used by technicians who want a more accurate and instantaneous reading. For instance They use Plezo meters and not piezo meters in areas prone to landslides, as they need to know the hydraulic pressure of the water in the ground and not the flow rate. If the Plezo reading is too high they will put plezo tubes in the ground for the reduction of pressure.
Plezo is also used in medicine for the same reason.... measuring pressure within a substance and not pressure from an outside source..
Document 10054519
This is done by passing hot water through a set of tubes on the outside of which ... Continuous monitoring of particulate matter (using a plezo balance) ...
tobaccodocuments.org/health_canada/10054519.html - 32k -
An almost Instantaneous response time Is obtained from plezo- ... Plastic tubes. F i g u r e 6 . 1 4 : T y p i c a l c i r c u i t f o r ...
www.1insaat.com/uploads/TrbBlogs/pdfs_2/28547_1207773521_75... -
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@ sibsab.. Are you saying a PDF file is less accurate than a google scan? and you should just dismiss something as a typo when there is a clear and defined fact that there is a difference. There are thousands of words which are different by one letter..
Peer comment(s):
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chaman4723
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Thank you
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Sabine Akabayov, PhD
: taking an "i" for an "l' is a common OCR error. All your references are scanned PDF files.//So why don't you give us some prove for the existence of the plezometer? All your references have "piezo" in the original (pre-scan) text.
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Plezo is a hydraulic water pressure reading in ground water, piezo is the flow rate of water near a water well or at the well head... As different as Volt meter is to amp meter in elecricity
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Polangmar
: Sorry for changing my opinion but this must also have resulted from a typo: http://je.pl/cn4h .
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Plezo is a hydraulic water pressure reading in ground water, piezo is the flow rate of water near a water well or at the well head... As different as Volt meter is to amp meter in elecricity
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Reference comments
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Reference:
plezo meter
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119944136/abstrac...
PDF]
Artificial Recharge of Ground Water in the Rokugo Alluvial Fan ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
meters above sea level. The basin bed is 2120 square meters and 3.4 ... change happens in hydraulic head and ground water temperature .... Plezo meter N ...
www.sci.kumamoto-u.ac.jp/~hydrolab/KagabuISMAR2007.pdf
PDF]
i-h8 tic?0 88di?lQ bZy6l.8 Of fin8 8and and 8izt abOV8 th8 ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
An almost Instantaneous response time Is obtained from plezo- meters In which the deflectlon of a diaphragm as a result of water pressure Is measured ...
www.1insaat.com/uploads/TrbBlogs/pdfs_2/28547_1207773521_75... -
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Results of observing the state of hydraulic structures of the ...
of head dissipation, the water levels in the plezometer tubes in the right .... composing the slopes: The groundwater contours which at first had some ...
www.springerlink.com/index/WQ412525546155Q0.pdf -
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The evolution of Montebestia landslide (Umbria, Central Italy ...
In the landslide area the model of the groundwater circulation is affected by the ... IPxf"0,0 41 0,1 1 months Monitoring by plezometer S3 (414 m.a.sl. ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1464190900001040 -
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Artificial Recharge of Ground Water in the Rokugo Alluvial Fan ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
meters above sea level. The basin bed is 2120 square meters and 3.4 ... change happens in hydraulic head and ground water temperature .... Plezo meter N ...
www.sci.kumamoto-u.ac.jp/~hydrolab/KagabuISMAR2007.pdf
PDF]
i-h8 tic?0 88di?lQ bZy6l.8 Of fin8 8and and 8izt abOV8 th8 ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
An almost Instantaneous response time Is obtained from plezo- meters In which the deflectlon of a diaphragm as a result of water pressure Is measured ...
www.1insaat.com/uploads/TrbBlogs/pdfs_2/28547_1207773521_75... -
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Note added at 6 hrs (2009-05-02 04:58:26 GMT)
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Results of observing the state of hydraulic structures of the ...
of head dissipation, the water levels in the plezometer tubes in the right .... composing the slopes: The groundwater contours which at first had some ...
www.springerlink.com/index/WQ412525546155Q0.pdf -
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Note added at 6 hrs (2009-05-02 04:59:58 GMT)
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The evolution of Montebestia landslide (Umbria, Central Italy ...
In the landslide area the model of the groundwater circulation is affected by the ... IPxf"0,0 41 0,1 1 months Monitoring by plezometer S3 (414 m.a.sl. ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1464190900001040 -
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Sabine Akabayov, PhD
: If you would actually read the documents, you would see, that they all write "piezo" and not "plezo".//Again, the reference you are posting is the result of a scan of a pdf file, which has "piezo" in the original text.
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The total hydraulic head as measured in a plezometer, synonymous with the water-table elevation for an open borehole. http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/ad_hoc/12755100FullText...
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Reference:
piezometer, plezometer
Figure 14. Cumulative ground-water amount from raw plezometer data along with rainfall
Figure 16. Ground-water recharge from plezometer measurements and cumulative rainfall.
Piezometer
An open borehole used to measure the total ground-water elevation head.
Piezometric head
The total hydraulic head as measured in a plezometer, synonymous with the water-table elevation for an open borehole.
http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/ad_hoc/12755100FullText...
Figure 16. Ground-water recharge from plezometer measurements and cumulative rainfall.
Piezometer
An open borehole used to measure the total ground-water elevation head.
Piezometric head
The total hydraulic head as measured in a plezometer, synonymous with the water-table elevation for an open borehole.
http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/ad_hoc/12755100FullText...
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Gary D
: Plezo is a hydraulic water pressure reading in ground water, piezo is the flow rate of water near a water well or at the well head... As different as Volt meter is to amp meter in elecricity
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Sabine Akabayov, PhD
: If you would open the document, you will see, that it actually says "Figure 14. Cumulative ground-water amount from raw piezometer data along with rainfall"
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??? Didn't I say that "plezo" is a typo?
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Discussion
In some text you may find piezo 20 times and plezo once. If you google for plezo, you will get it!