Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

ist X so zu stellen als bestünde der gewährleistete Sachverhalt

English translation:

X is to be put in such a position as if the warranted state of affairs obtained (prevailed)

Added to glossary by Adrian MM.
Mar 15, 2022 12:50
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German term

ist X so zu stellen als bestünde der gewährleistete Sachverhalt

German to English Law/Patents Law: Contract(s) Supply Agreement
Sofern X Naturalrestitution verlangt, ist X so zu stellen als bestünde der gewährleistete Sachverhalt bzw. das gewährleistete Rechtsverhältnis.

Der Satz steht leider ohne Kontext, aber in einer Klausel über Gewährleistung.
Change log

Mar 20, 2022 13:47: Adrian MM. Created KOG entry

Mar 22, 2022 12:08: Cilian O'Tuama changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

PRO (3): philgoddard, Steffen Walter, Cilian O'Tuama

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Discussion

Jacek Szczerbak (asker) Mar 20, 2022:
Right. So I wrote something like "as if the obligation had been fulfilled", which is maybe not very exact, but at least understandable.
philgoddard Mar 15, 2022:
Naturalrestitution is restitution in kind.

I think we have to consider "bzw. das gewährleistete Rechtsverhältnis" as well.

Proposed translations

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X is to be put in such a position as if the warranted state of affairs obtained (existed)

... or the warranted legal relationship (query: privity of contract).
New poster often means 1. check the ProZ DEU/ENG glossaries first and 2. watch the 10-word ProZ asking limit. This question is right on the 'cusp'.

Note Margaret M's comment on the asnwer chosen in the second weblink, except X is the subject (modern lingusitics: the 'rheme'), rather than the object ('the theme'): 'X should place them in the same position as if ... is a common way of putting it...'.

Restitution in kind used to fall, in Anglo-Aussie contract law, into the category of 'quasi-contract' at the 'intersection' with tort. Cut to my Aussie-born ex-London Uni. lecturer in Equity & Trusts: William 'Bill' Swadling and the late Professor Peter Birks of Oxon.



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Note added at 2 hrs (2022-03-15 14:52:38 GMT)
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Second web ref. again: https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german-to-english/law-contracts/6...

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Note added at 5 days (2022-03-20 13:44:00 GMT) Post-grading
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Obtain can be used as an intransitive verb, not only legalistically, to mean prevail: see the OED. 1 : to be generally recognized or established : prevail Those ideas no longer obtain for our generation. a greater degree of free expression than usually obtains in film production— Roger Manvell. 2 archaic : succeed.
Example sentence:

Definition of RESTITUTION IN KIND: The situation where an offender is made to make good any losses by the return of the same or new goods to the victim.

Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : "Will be", rather than "is to be". And Jacek: I know the explanation is confusing, but the translation is correct.
25 mins
Thanks, Phil. Perchance unconfusing for those who have studied linguistics + the law to know that 'will be' isn't used in this context, rather (is) to be put https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/businesses/resolving-...
agree Cillie Swart : seems plausible
1 hr
Thanks, danke and dank je wel, Cillie !
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2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for the links and explanations. Legalese can still baffle me sometimes. I'm not sure it's correct with "obtained" who obtained what? Or is it an "obtained" that has nothing to do with obtaining anything?"
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