Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Max Mustermann

English translation:

John Doe

Added to glossary by Bogdan Burghelea
May 2, 2007 13:02
17 yrs ago
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German term

Max Mustermann

German to English Bus/Financial Names (personal, company) Sample forms
Does anyone know the English equivalent of Max Mustermann on a sample form or similar? I just can't recall it.
Proposed translations (English)
5 +12 John Doe
5 +1 John Smith
3 +3 John Doe / Joe Bloggs etc.
Change log

May 7, 2007 09:34: Bogdan Burghelea Created KOG entry

Discussion

Victor Dewsbery May 2, 2007:
For what country? In the UK I would lean towards A.N.Other, but his US cousin is definitely John Doe. BTW, did you hear the rumours that Franz Mustermann was dead? Perhaps Max, too. http://tafel.4haso.de/?p=286#comments
David Hollywood May 2, 2007:
Joe Bloggs · Max Mustermann [österr.] Joe Bloggs [Br.] [sl.] Otto Normalverbraucher {m} · Joe Blow [Am.] [Aus.] Otto Normalverbraucher {m} ...
www.dict.cc/english-german/j15.php - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
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Proposed translations

+12
2 mins
Selected

John Doe

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Note added at 3 mins (2007-05-02 13:05:59 GMT)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Doe

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... männlich, und "Jane Doe" weiblich.

... oder, wie's aussieht, geht auch "Richard Roe" männlich und "Jane Roe" weiblich.
Peer comment(s):

agree Nadine Kahn : Yes! For a woman: Jane Doe
2 mins
Thank you!
agree David Hollywood : or "Joe Bloggs" in the UK I think :)
3 mins
Thank you!
agree Nicole Schnell : And his lovely wife Jane. :-)
3 mins
Thank you!
agree fairfaxcompany : and for the whole family: John Doe, Jane Doe and Baby Doe
3 mins
or "Precious Doe". Thanks a million!
agree Ingo Dierkschnieder
4 mins
Thank you!
agree Eva Schroeder : John Doe/Jane Doe
7 mins
Thank you!
agree Dr. Georg Schweigart
9 mins
Thank you!
agree Trans-Marie
14 mins
Thank you!
agree Jim Tucker (X) : yes but the subtlety of Mustermann's late expressionist work far exceeds Doe's crude brushstrokes
16 mins
Thank you!
agree jccantrell
1 hr
Thank you!
agree Julia Lipeles
3 hrs
Thank you!
neutral Clare Forder : I think "John/Jane Doe" is used more in the context of an unidentified dead body!
7 hrs
Not necessarily! Please read the Wikipedia reference.
agree Rebecca Garber : John Doe is the sample used on forms, living on 123 Elm St, Anytown, USA, iirc
1 day 1 hr
Thank you! Interesting to know!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "All of your suggestions are valid, but US English is required so I've gone for John Doe. Thanks."
+1
1 hr

John Smith

John Smith is a common placeholder name on sample forms, whereas adverts for credit cards or store cards often carry "Mr (or Mrs) A Smith" as alternative to A.N.Other.

As I was growing up in England, the surname Bloggs was considered common and Smith commonplace! As such, Joe Bloggs was the term used to refer to a hypothetical AVERAGE man, almost like any Tom, Dick or Harry (e.g. if it's good enough for Joe Bloggs, it's good enough for me) and John Smith was used on forms and advertising.
Peer comment(s):

agree Armorel Young : yes, we need to know whether this is for UK or US
49 mins
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+3
5 mins

John Doe / Joe Bloggs etc.

Various options depending on geographical location.
http://www.snarkhunting.com/page/21/
... has options from all over the world!


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Note added at 4 days (2007-05-07 05:08:20 GMT) Post-grading
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Hmmm ... if only I'd also typed simply "---" as an explanation and not wasted time loking for that interesting reference!
Peer comment(s):

agree Ingo Dierkschnieder
0 min
agree David Hollywood
1 min
agree BrigitteHilgner : Aus meiner Londoner Zeit kenne ich den Typen als Joe Bloggs.
12 mins
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