Jun 22, 2008 20:57
15 yrs ago
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English term
...in the intestinal lumen again
English to French
Medical
Biology (-tech,-chem,micro-)
Natural Products
This is from an abstract of a scientific paper about the gastro-intestinal action of sennosides.
Here is the sentence:
"The absorption in apical to basolateral direction was poor and P(c) values were comparable to xxx. The transport was higher in the secretory direction, indicating a significant efflux (e.g., by efflux pumps) of the (poorly) absorbed compounds in the intestinal lumen again."
What baffles me is the "again". I'm guessing it's about reabsorption, but then do I understand "poor reabsorption" or "reabsorption of compounds that were initially poorly absorbed"? Or ...?
Thanks for your help!
Here is the sentence:
"The absorption in apical to basolateral direction was poor and P(c) values were comparable to xxx. The transport was higher in the secretory direction, indicating a significant efflux (e.g., by efflux pumps) of the (poorly) absorbed compounds in the intestinal lumen again."
What baffles me is the "again". I'm guessing it's about reabsorption, but then do I understand "poor reabsorption" or "reabsorption of compounds that were initially poorly absorbed"? Or ...?
Thanks for your help!
Proposed translations
(French)
| 3 +2 | [omit from translation] |
Andreas THEODOROU
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| 3 +2 | à nouveau |
Jennifer Levey
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| 4 | encore |
Lionel_M (X)
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| 3 +1 | là encore |
Veronique Parente
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| 4 | de manière similaire |
Shog Imas
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Change log
Jun 24, 2008 12:48: Florence Bremond changed "Term asked" from "again (see whole sentence please)" to "...in the intestinal lumen again"
Proposed translations
+2
11 hrs
Andreas THEODOROU
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Works in field
Spain
Translator/writer (medical/pharma specn)
Native in: English
Works in: Greek to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 2 more.
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8
English term (edited):
again (see whole sentence please)
Selected
[omit from translation]
After reading the abstract, I would say that 'again' is sloppy English and can be omitted in the translation.
I understand 'again' to mean 'becomes present in the lumen again'.
I understand 'again' to mean 'becomes present in the lumen again'.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Lionel_M (X)
: YES ! this makes sens !
12 hrs
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| agree |
Jennifer Levey
: D'accord - Il est probable que 'again' est venu avec un 'cut 'n paste' de l'article complet et que l'on a 'oublié' de supprimer dans l'abstracte.
16 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Merci Andy. Et merci à ceux qui ont confirmé. C'est ainsi que je le comprends également, sinon je donne ma langue aux chats."
+2
4 mins
Jennifer Levey
Chile
Chile
Native in English
Chile
Human-scale Globalization
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
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8
English term (edited):
again (see whole sentence please)
à nouveau
indicating a significant ... again
-->
ce qui indique à nouveau un ... significatif(ve)
I assume there has already been some explanation of one way that such a condition can arise, and here we have another.
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Note added at 6 mins (2008-06-22 21:03:49 GMT)
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Try editing the source text like this before translating it:
... indicating a significant efflux (e.g., by efflux pumps) of the (poorly) absorbed compounds in the intestinal lumen again."
-->
indicating **,(yet) again,** a significant efflux (e.g., by efflux pumps) of the (poorly) absorbed compounds in the intestinal lumen."
-->
ce qui indique à nouveau un ... significatif(ve)
I assume there has already been some explanation of one way that such a condition can arise, and here we have another.
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Note added at 6 mins (2008-06-22 21:03:49 GMT)
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Try editing the source text like this before translating it:
... indicating a significant efflux (e.g., by efflux pumps) of the (poorly) absorbed compounds in the intestinal lumen again."
-->
indicating **,(yet) again,** a significant efflux (e.g., by efflux pumps) of the (poorly) absorbed compounds in the intestinal lumen."
Note from asker:
| Sorry, wrong assumption: there is no such indication in the text. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Shog Imas
: Such indication that similar effect is repeated ***again*** exist in the text: "P(c) values were ***comparable*** to xxx"; So the effect of the studied substance is the same as for substance xxx.
4 hrs
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| agree |
:::::::::: (X)
7 hrs
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| neutral |
Lionel_M (X)
: "à la limite" DE nouveau
1 day 30 mins
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17 mins
English term (edited):
again (see whole sentence please)
encore
Une variante, mais "de nouveau" va aussi très bien comme "à nouveau" déjà proposé
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Shog Imas
: Vous vous contredisez dans votre reponse et vos remarques
1 day 5 hrs
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A bon ???
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+1
23 mins
Veronique Parente
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in French
Specializes in field
Netherlands
Dental and Medical Translations
Native in: French
Works in: English to French, Dutch to French
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12
English term (edited):
again (see whole sentence please)
là encore
...indiquant, là encore, ...
pourrait suggérer que le cas s'est produit une première fois, dans d'autres conditions peut-être
pourrait suggérer que le cas s'est produit une première fois, dans d'autres conditions peut-être
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Shog Imas
3 hrs
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| agree |
GILLES MEUNIER
6 hrs
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| disagree |
Lionel_M (X)
: "là" où ??? il n'y a pas de causalité de lieu à mon sens//Non Vero, sauf que les dicos sont à "interpréter ! « Là »en pour un Français « mothertongue » signifie ICI ! Le dico ne dit pas de conn… ; 'faut lire la juste déf vs context !
1 day 12 mins
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traduction donnée notamment par le Collins et Termium (dans le sens "encore une fois"). Mais peut-être que selon toi ces dico ne valent rien, n'est-ce pas, juste bons pour la poubelle ???
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4 hrs
English term (edited):
again (see whole sentence please)
de manière similaire
absorption and secretion of the sennosides are realized the same way (de manière similaire) as for XXX
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Lionel_M (X)
: on dit "de la même façon"
20 hrs
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Discussion
again comme adverbe ( de indicating ), peut avoir le sens de : en même temps / d'un autre côté / en retour.
I fail to see how any of your answers could apply. So either I'm blind to something (and please open my eyes) or the text will show you this "again" cannot mean the "yet again" (as expressed by mediamatrix) that you all seem to understand. Also, What I'm looking for is not a translation of "again" (of course!) but an explanation of what the again relates to, in your opinion. So here is that reference: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17481875. Thanks again for your help!