Feb 26, 2009 20:24
15 yrs ago
Russian term
за крепкого коня
Russian to English
Art/Literary
History
Soviet text
Here's the context, which is the heading and subheading of a news article.
За крепкого колхозного коня
Только регистрируют падеж
The article goes on to detail the general livestock disasters facing the kolkhoz.
What does за крепкого коня mean? And I am also confused about the subheading.
The full article can be found here, about 2/3rds down the page:
http://www.oldgazette.ru/kpravda/21041932/text1.html
За крепкого колхозного коня
Только регистрируют падеж
The article goes on to detail the general livestock disasters facing the kolkhoz.
What does за крепкого коня mean? And I am also confused about the subheading.
The full article can be found here, about 2/3rds down the page:
http://www.oldgazette.ru/kpravda/21041932/text1.html
Proposed translations
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Proposed translations
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1 hr
Michael Korovkin
Italy
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for a sturdy collective-farm horse
...except that they keep reporting lifestock fatality
that's how I read it...
that's how I read it...
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Oxana Snyder
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thanx, Oxana.
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Eric Candle
: strong horse
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Thanks Eric. But you know, my horse(a selle Francais)is very strong but not at all sturdy. The only strong AND sturdy hotblood is an Arab.Even some warmbloods are not sturdy.Farm horse is most likely to be a coldblood.they're sturdy and strong.
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Comment: "спасибо!"
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Alexandra Taggart
Russian Federation
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a stallion with a strong stocky body
The sentence makes my brows rise: "A strong stocky horse could be registered as one that has dropped dead (from desease or malnutrition)
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I see now when I read the article. Anti-Soviet bullsweet.
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I see now when I read the article. Anti-Soviet bullsweet.
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stasbetman
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about strong horses
за - имеется ввиду о (чем-либо)
вместо strong можно использовать другой синоним
падеж - mortality
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падеж - ударение на второй слог
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healthy/sound даже, пожалуй, лучше
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Объяснил))) В смысле, пад[йо]ж
вместо strong можно использовать другой синоним
падеж - mortality
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Note added at 18 мин (2009-02-26 20:42:15 GMT)
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падеж - ударение на второй слог
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Note added at 20 мин (2009-02-26 20:44:35 GMT)
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healthy/sound даже, пожалуй, лучше
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Объяснил))) В смысле, пад[йо]ж
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Alex Khanin
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More sturdy horses for collective farms
more likely as a heading
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Rodion Shein
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Hale collective-farm horse now!
It's a kind of slogan, like, you know, Coppola's movie 'Apocalypse Now!' Даешь крепкого коня!
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...to ensure the availability and fitness of work horses
Речь в тексте на ссылке идет о недостаточности мер, принятых по обеспечению наличия работоспособных лошадей для работ в сельском хозяйстве.
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Почитайте оригинал!
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или "...ensure that sturdy kolkhoz horses are available"
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Почитайте оригинал!
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или "...ensure that sturdy kolkhoz horses are available"
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Rachel Douglas
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healthy collective farm workhorses reported as downers
I think you've received adequate explanations, but no suggestions that conform to English usage.
падеж - That's a downer animal. It's sick. It can't walk. As in: "All downer cattle must be tested for BSE."
How you want to phrase the headline and the kicker depends on your overall style - whether you're closely following the Soviet-era polemics, or writing something that would pass in an English-language paper.
Example of the former: Sturdy Collective Farm Workhorses: The Record Shows Only Downers
The latter: Healthy Collective Farm Workhorses Reported as Downers
падеж - That's a downer animal. It's sick. It can't walk. As in: "All downer cattle must be tested for BSE."
How you want to phrase the headline and the kicker depends on your overall style - whether you're closely following the Soviet-era polemics, or writing something that would pass in an English-language paper.
Example of the former: Sturdy Collective Farm Workhorses: The Record Shows Only Downers
The latter: Healthy Collective Farm Workhorses Reported as Downers
Discussion
Article in early Soviet style criticizing "wreckers" (here kulaks and beys) who are killing off perfectly good livestock, which get perfunctorily reckoned by veterinarians as part of mass "padezh". Thus even a good strong horse just figures as a sad statistic...
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