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Apr 17, 2011 22:45
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Spanish term

el papaloteo de los reporteros

Spanish to English Other Journalism news media
«Salen, huyen veloces entre el revoloteo de los periodistas, el papaloteo de los reporteros, el parloteo de la comitiva.»

description of a mob scene at a political event.

My rough draft is:

«They leave, flee [swift; quick; fast; rapid] amid the commotion of journalists, the [hubbub] of news reporters, the chatter of the committee.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 melee of reporters
4 +2 the hubbub of news reporters
4 +2 the reporters milling about
4 +1 the bustle of reporters
3 +1 the flurry of reporters
3 the kite-flying of the reporters
3 the flap of the news reporters

Discussion

David Ronder Apr 19, 2011:
Paparazzi Forgive my pedantry, but three people have now spelt this word with a double 'p' in the middle and my dictionaries say it has just a single one.
Carol Gullidge Apr 19, 2011:
papparazzi this was also the first thought that sprang to my mind, for one obvious reason: it sounds so similar! But for reasons already mentioned by others above, I soon discarded it, albeit somewhat reluctantly
Altogringo Apr 18, 2011:
I agree with David, unless you want to editorialize. Feeding frenzy is when they have a target and go for the throat and papparazzi are intrinsically parasitic based on fame/celebrity value. To me, this is just reporters running around frantically trying to grab whoever they can talk to to keep their editors halfway satisfied or score the scoop.
David Ronder Apr 18, 2011:
Well, only you have the full text in front of you, but I would say paparazzi are not 'reporteros' (rather celebrity-chasing photographers) and a 'feeding frenzy' is a particular type of media event rather than the kind of typical press behaviour that I think is being described here. So on the limited context we have, I would say yes, pushing it.
offset (asker) Apr 18, 2011:
Now, this might be pushing it, but I kept thinking of papparazzi, for some reason. Not the beat, mind you; just rude behavior. Would "feeding frenzy" be too over the top?
Altogringo Apr 18, 2011:
@DLyons In that case, wouldn't your explanation of 'carrying on wild speculations' work better as your official answer? You could put kite-flying in your explanation as the source.
DLyons Apr 18, 2011:
Possibly that! But I read it as carrying on wild speculations.
offset (asker) Apr 18, 2011:
I found the "kite" definition on the Internet, but was having trouble "seeing" it in English. If you mean reporters frantically waving microphones in somebody's face, then . . .

Proposed translations

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10 hrs
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melee of reporters

several examples:

Search ResultsCBI agents make a way through the melee of reporters for ...Cricket Photo: CBI agents make a way through the melee of reporters for Azharuddin.
www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/image/176699.html - Cached

Asia Times: Indonesian justice on trial30 Nov 2001... desperately seeking to rise mentally above the ignominy of being dragged, however politely and subtly, through a melee of reporters, ...
www.atimes.com/se-asia/CK30Ae01.html - Cached

BBC NEWS | UK | Wales | Trial 'overwhelms' Horton killers18 Jan 2006 ... Amid the melee of reporters jostling for position, they were taken to a van waiting to take them back to prison. ...
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/4623636.stm - Cached

Game over for corrupt, wig-wearing Indonesian tax official | Reuters19 Jan 2011... caused an impression I am the number one crook in Indonesia," he told a melee of reporters before being led away to return to detention. ...
af.reuters.com › Home › News - Cached
Peer comment(s):
agree neilmac : Also French for "scrum" (which might also work, though not, I suspect, for USA) ...
23 hrs
many thanks neilmac! I also like scrum - very evocative
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "any one of these option will do, but I'm gonna go with melee. Here's why: EB skillfully rhymes «revoloteo . . . papaloteo . . . parloteo». The book, a long prose poem, is full of stuff like that. To do him justice, and add a little something of my own while trying to remain faithful to his text, I'm gonna try yoking "melee" with an archaism like "parley" and one other that I'll have to sleep on. Thanks, all."
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47 mins

the hubbub of news reporters

'the hubbub of news reporters' sounds OK to me.
Peer comment(s):
agree Marjory Hord
2 hrs
agree neilmac : hubbub is such a great word..
1 day 8 hrs
neutral Altogringo : @Neilmac , I like hubbub as a word, too, but I think it would be better for describing fleeing the whole "hubbub of the convention" experience than the specifics of the reporters. Plenty of good options around.
1 day 14 hrs
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2 hrs

the kite-flying of the reporters

"papalote" is Mexican for a kite. "To fly a kite" is a standard English expression and just the sort of thing reporters might do.
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7 hrs

the flap of the news reporters

I found this definition of the verb:

http://es.wiktionary.org/wiki/papalotear
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+1
8 hrs

the flurry of reporters

Another possible option:

Reichstag Fire - The World at War
It wasn't long before Chancellor Hitler and Prussian Minister Göring arrived ***amid a flurry of reporters*** and photographers. Although he had just stepped out ...
worldatwar.net/event/reichstagsbrand/ - Cached - Similar

"You don't just change": Adam Lambert on gay/straight sexuality
16 Mar 2010 ... (You should have seen ***the flurry of reporters** when after his interview, his minder declared an opportunity to take a photograph with him.) ...
www.adamlambertuk.com/index.php?option... - Cached



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A couple of definitions of 'papalotear':

Mover las extremidades o las alas como una mariposa.
* Ámbito: México
Moverse agitadamente debido al viento
* Ámbito: México

So, I thought 'a flurry of wings', and 'flurry' is also used with 'reporters', 'journalists' etc.

Televangelist Joyce Meyer gives deposition for murder trial of ex ...
6 Apr 2011 ... On Wednesday, Meyer swept into the courthouse **admid a flurry of reporters** and cameras shortly before 2 p.m. to make the recorded sworn ...
www.ecollegetimes.com › Student Life - Cached

Neighbours Episode 4641 from 2005 - NeighboursEpisodes.com
24 Jan 2005 ... Before Lyn can respond, **a flurry of reporters** suddenly materialise and begin to harass Lyn with a barrage of questions regarding Steph. ...
www.neighboursepisodes.com › Episodes from 2005 - Cached

A busy first day marks the start of the show :: Auto-Sleepers ...
22 Feb 2011 ... The opening day of the show was filled with excitement along with **a flurry of journalists** all keen to catch-up on the latest Auto-Sleepers ...
www.auto-sleepers.co.uk/.../a-busy-first-day-marks-the-star... - Cached
Peer comment(s):
agree neilmac : A serious contender IMO :)
1 day 1 hr
Cheers, Neil :)
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9 hrs

the reporters milling about

or 'the milling about of reporters', though I think the first way works marginally better

papalotear: (=vagabundear) to wander about - Collins


Reporters do tend to mill about/around:

Obama and Clinton Surprise Pretty Much Everyone With Trip to ...
10 Dec 2010 ... Had it not been, Mr. Obama and Mr. Clinton might have discovered only a few reporters milling about or catching a few minutes of sleep. ...
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/10/the-surprise-t...

Raw and Uncut – Sounds of the Showdown with Agassi, Sampras, Lendl ...
25 Feb 2011 ... Also be wary of the background sounds of reporters milling about with papers and such and doors opening and closing. Morning News Conference ...
www.zimbio.com/.../Raw Uncut Sounds Showdown Agassi Sampras... -

17 Filipinos from Gaza arrive in Manila - INQUIRER.net, Philippine ...
9 Jan 2009 ... Reporters milling about the arrival area waiting for the beleaguered Filipinos to emerge received unconfirmed information that special envoy ...
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/2009...

Peer comment(s):
agree Altogringo : Go with your official answer. Milling about is very a good way to phrase this for me, keeps the sentence flowing. Gives you a better visual picture of the scene than hubbub.
5 hrs
Thanks, Altogringo
agree neilmac : I agree, but like "hubbub" so much for its intrinsic beauty that I disagree with altogringo's comment :)
23 hrs
Thanks, Neil. My father-in-law once said he loved 'all the hub and the bub' of central London.
neutral Lisa McCreadie (X) : I'm torn. It's nice and idiomatic but it seems a bit too relaxed? Maybe it's just me..
3 days 1 hr
Well I've been among reporters milling about and it wasn't at all relaxed
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+1
10 hrs

the bustle of reporters

It just seems to depict the frantic nature of the scene to me. There are quite a few Google hits as well.
Peer comment(s):
agree neilmac : I like a bit of bustle, maybe it's the "u"...
23 hrs
The joys of vocabulary and spelling are boundless!
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