Michael Korovkin May 31, 2011:

Атрсипопе: I hope that the translation is for a British readership, because if you run "sent down" by an American, short of "swallow“ he wouldn't know what to make of it. You might've as well used "was let go from the university": at least this cosy phrase would be understood on both shores of the Atlantic.

Ellen Kraus May 31, 2011:

would I else have been so adamant in insisting on the term´s NOT being something negative ?

artsipoppa (asker) May 31, 2011:

Well;

I submitted the translation and the term was instantly called into question. I asked for, and got, a degree certificate from the client, which proved that the student in question had indeed graduated from the university. It seems that отчислен из университета is not always negative...

Ellen Kraus May 31, 2011:

@Katarina. fine. the definition you´re posting, I am pleased to state, fully backs what I explained and suggested right from the beginning.

Katerina O. May 31, 2011:

for future reference Нашла Положение о порядке оформления документов при отчислении... http://nsuem.ru/ouruniversity/info/docs/doc_int/plzh/docotch...
1.2. Положение касается:
• студентов, отчисленных из университета в связи с успешным окончанием;
• студентов, отчисленных по различным причинам до окончания обучения

rikka May 30, 2011:

if the student was indeed a bad one, than possibly "deregistration" might be a tad lighter than "exmatriculation" (mind you they both get underlined red when i m typing here)

rikka May 30, 2011:

мне недавно попалось в дипломе "Завершил образование в ...., приказ об отчислении №...". Диплом был о "курсе неполного высшего обр-я". Причем оценки были не ниже хорошего, т.е. в этом нет ничего негативного и отчислить могут по многим причинам, как я полагаю

artsipoppa (asker) May 30, 2011:

Thanks for your help everyone. I went for 'sent down' in the end, bearing in mind a UK recipient.

Ellen Kraus May 30, 2011:

@ Mark. None of us, I think, has the right to decide as to when the discussion is over. It will only be over once we have come to know that the conduct of the student in question has been such as to justify an expulsion. And by the way: bab.la English-Russian dict. translates "отчисленный" as "exmatriculated; and there are almost 11.000 ghits for "exmatriculation" though, in general, I dont set much store by the number of Google links.

artsipoppa (asker) May 30, 2011:

Katerina; That's effectively what the document is, by the looks of it, 'just a certificate'; it's definitely not a diploma.

The Misha May 30, 2011:

Unfortunately, your attempt at a Russian translation is even less convincing, but I see endless, and quite enticing possibilities behind число студента было отCранено реестра).

Mark Berelekhis May 30, 2011:

"exmatriculated" = 1760 hits on Google. The word is not English. End of discussion.

Ellen Kraus May 30, 2011:

sorry, my comments were sent before I had finished. You furthermore point out that my links are limited to German sources. here is another one, this time a Suiss one. And: English online dictionaries, such as e.g. bab.la. linguee, dict.cc all offer a definition for the term in question.
Students who have completed or decide to interrupt their studies must exmatriculate.
Englisch: www.unifr.ch/admission/en/unifr/administria

Ellen Kraus May 30, 2011:

to Katerina. just let me contribute to making the word in question more plausible. to immatriculate (to enrol) means to register at a university as opposed to exmatriculate which means the student´s number is again removed from the register the moment he decides to leave the university or after he has completed his studies. The term is a loan word, that´s true, but it has long since become accepted by other languages. Every student, when enrolling, getw a number which is either simply called "student number". enrolment number or matriculation number". Since the text in question mentions "good conduct or behaviour" it was clear for me that "отчислен" stands for (the student) exmatriculated, (in Russian: число студента было отсранено из университетского реестра).

Katerina O. May 30, 2011:

to Asker What do you mean by a medical certificate? If it is not a diploma, and just a certificate, then it means that the person didn't graduate but was expelled for some reason... Even if he/she had good grades before... And got this certificate as a proof of having studied in that university.

Katerina O. May 30, 2011:

Ellen Все приведенные ссылки - из домена .de. Это косвенно подтверждает факт, что exmatriculation является калькой с немецкого, которая к тому же не очень по душе англоговорящей аудитории, судя по комментариям...

Ellen Kraus May 30, 2011:

and to peers who speak German, I may recommend reading: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmatrikulation

Ellen Kraus May 30, 2011:

to all those who find fautt with the term "exmatriculation" -:
Students who wish to leave the university before completing their degree need to apply for exmatriculation at the Student Registration Office during the ...
www.studium.uni-freiburg.de/.../exmatrikulation-en - Im Cache - — Exmatriculation refers to the removal of your name from the list of current ...
www.studium.uni-freiburg.de/.../exmatrikulation-en?... - Im freiburg.deexmatriculation - Deutsch-Übersetzung – LingueeViele "exmatriculation" – Deutsch-Englisch- Wörterbuch .
www.linguee.de/englisch-deutsch/.../exmatriculation.html - Im - Philipps-Universität Marburg - Philipps ... ]25 Mar 2006 ... The process of exmatriculation terminates the registration of a student at the university. Leaving the university is possible at any time, ...
www.uni-marburg.de/.../exmatriculation - SeitenUniversité de Fribourg | Universität Freiburg » Exmatricul

The Misha May 29, 2011:

On second reading ... ... "exmatriculated" sounds deliciously ominous, almost like "exterminated". Maybe that's what they really should do to bad students.

artsipoppa (asker) May 29, 2011:

(start of sentence) Отчислена из университета с (date) в связи с (приказ no 216/G от (date) ). Thanks for your help!

Mark Berelekhis May 29, 2011:

Please clarify the "в связи с приказ" part?

artsipoppa (asker) May 29, 2011:

I was quite confused, as the form states she was отчислена из университета (в связи с приказ но..., I should probably add) pretty much when she would have finished her studies anyway (6 years). Ours is not to reason why, I suppose...