Apr 30, 2012 04:08
12 yrs ago
English term
turn a herring into sherbert
English
Social Sciences
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
An Arabic text I am working on talks about doing the impossible (turning a herring into sherbert). What equivalent might there be in English? I don't want to use "water into wine" due to the religious connotations.
Responses
3 +6 | make a silk purse from a sow's ear | Edith Kelly |
4 +2 | turn lead into gold | Jim Tucker (X) |
3 | pigs can't fly | Catharine Cellier-Smart |
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make a silk purse from a sow's ear
just came to my mind
Note from asker:
Thank you, Edith. This is the type of expression I am seeking. |
As a native speaker of U.S. English, I am almost certain that most Americans would be familiar with the expression. |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Terry Richards
: Yes. If you want it a bit more colloquial, you can replace sow with pig
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agree |
Jack Doughty
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agree |
Sheila Wilson
: Certainly does the job for British speakers
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agree |
Thayenga
: British indeed. :) Happy Monday. :)////// They would say: never heard of this one before. - Like me, "living" the USE. :)
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Thanks, actually it is Irish but I suppose the British use the same expression. No idea what our friends from US would say.
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agree |
Stephanie Ezrol
9 hrs
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neutral |
Armorel Young
: this isn't about doing the impossible; it's about the relationship between high-quality products and low-quality materials
10 hrs
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Armorel, I really do not understand your comment. I did not propose: you cannot make ......., that saying also exists.
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Alison MacG
: with Armorel. Although very similar, I think there is a slightly different sense or nuance here
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agree |
Cilian O'Tuama
: Can't say I understand A&A's reservations
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you for your help!"
53 mins
pigs can't fly
This isn't so much a proverb as a saying. It's rather more colloquial than the silk purse/sow's ear proverb, so perhaps more suited to an internet forum.
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Note added at 56 mins (2012-04-30 05:04:59 GMT)
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"Obama’s Patronage Pigs Can’t Fly
... And they can’t make them for the exact same reason pigs can’t fly: they aren’t designed to...
It can’t work until pigs fly."
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/04/solyndra-obama-...
"Why Pigs Can’t Fly
Economists have a new theory as to why the porcine economies of Southern Europe are still so sluggish."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2008/06/28/why-pigs-ca...
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Note added at 56 mins (2012-04-30 05:04:59 GMT)
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"Obama’s Patronage Pigs Can’t Fly
... And they can’t make them for the exact same reason pigs can’t fly: they aren’t designed to...
It can’t work until pigs fly."
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/04/solyndra-obama-...
"Why Pigs Can’t Fly
Economists have a new theory as to why the porcine economies of Southern Europe are still so sluggish."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2008/06/28/why-pigs-ca...
Note from asker:
Thank you, Catherine. I really appreciate your help. I am looking for the same pattern, though (turning x into y). |
Sorry, I just realized I misspelled your name. |
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3 hrs
turn lead into gold
The alchemical alternative.
Note from asker:
Thank you for your help. I liked this one, too. |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Alison MacG
: or turn/spin straw into gold, as in the fairy-tale rogue Rumpelstiltskin
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even better - thx A
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agree |
Trudy Peters
: also w/Alison's version
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Discussion
This question incidentally reminded me of a saying I came across only a few weeks ago: “You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, but you can make a pig’s ear out of anything”
"Seekinge too make a silke purse of a Sowes eare."
Before that, the Anglo-Scottish poet Alexander Barclay had included a similar expression in his Eclogues (1514):
"None can [...] make goodly silke of a gotes flece"
This is from the Oxford Dictionary of Proverbs.
I think this saying is familiar in the US. There's a Linda Ronstadt album called "Silk Purse", with a photo of Linda on the cover surrounded by pigs (or sows?). And here, for example, it is used in an American press article:
"Mitt Romney Makes a Silk Purse out of a Sow's Ear"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jerryweissman/2012/02/28/mitt-ro...