Aug 1, 2012 13:00
11 yrs ago
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English term
Online and on point
English to French
Marketing
Media / Multimedia
Slogan dans un site Web sous l'onglet News.
J'essaie de rendre l'allitération du slogan et son effet, mais sans résultat probant pour l'instant.
Merci.
J'essaie de rendre l'allitération du slogan et son effet, mais sans résultat probant pour l'instant.
Merci.
Proposed translations
(French)
References
| "pertinent & par internet" and "en ligne & à propos" seem to fit best in the context of a News site. |
Isabelle F. BRUCHER (X)
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Proposed translations
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7 mins
Philippe Maillard
Brazil
Brazil
Native in English
&
French
Works in field
Brazil
Accuracy first
Native in: French (Variants: Belgian, Standard-France) 
, English (Variant: UK)
Works in: English to French, Portuguese to French
Related KudoZ points
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Selected
en ligne et branché
suggestion qui dépend grandement du contenu du site
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Un gros merci pour ta rapidité et ton efficacité!"
7 mins
en ligne, et à la pointe
ou en pointe
"point: (Military) Military the position at the head of a body of troops, or a person in this position"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/point
"point: (Military) Military the position at the head of a body of troops, or a person in this position"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/point
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En ligne et en tête
Pour garder l'idée de online and on point... Si "on point" se réfère à l'idée de "pointe" telle que suggérée par FX. (à la pointe, en tête, en avant-garde aussi..)
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Note added at 1 hr (2012-08-01 14:44:36 GMT)
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Petit jeu de mot... S'agit-il d'un slogan "en tête" d'article ? ;)
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Note added at 1 hr (2012-08-01 14:44:36 GMT)
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Petit jeu de mot... S'agit-il d'un slogan "en tête" d'article ? ;)
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: I don't see how in EN 'on point' could possibly mean 'at the point' — the more familiar expression is 'on points', meaning a ballet-dancer on the tips of their toes, but I don't imagine it's that here; so I come back to 'on the point', 'to the point', ...
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I understand and agree with you Tony. But a bit more context would help us understand the point here.. :)
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+1
44 mins
pertinent et par internet
While still guessing at the real intended meaning, I just wanted to throw this into the melting-pot.
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Note added at 1 hr (2012-08-01 14:58:33 GMT)
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A little bit of Googling seems to confirm that this usage of 'on point' does indeed mean relevant, pertinent, to the point; here's just one example of its being used in that sense:
Mark Sanchez: Santonio Holmes' comments no big deal - NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82aec64b/article/mark-...
Despite an unending collection of small fires that seem to pop up around him, Sanchez is always on point in his public comments, doing little to ...
Looks as if it might, as I suspected, be a specifically US usage.
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Note added at 1 hr (2012-08-01 14:58:33 GMT)
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A little bit of Googling seems to confirm that this usage of 'on point' does indeed mean relevant, pertinent, to the point; here's just one example of its being used in that sense:
Mark Sanchez: Santonio Holmes' comments no big deal - NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82aec64b/article/mark-...
Despite an unending collection of small fires that seem to pop up around him, Sanchez is always on point in his public comments, doing little to ...
Looks as if it might, as I suspected, be a specifically US usage.
Peer comment(s):
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Alain Boulé
: on pourrait dire aussi : en ligne et à propos ou à point
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Merci, Alain ! Vous devrez poster votre suggestion.
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GILLES MEUNIER
: Je préfère en ligne. Plutôt 'sur Internet' avec une majuscule que par Internet : connexion par Internet mais ici, sur Internet
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Merci, Gilles ! Oui, moi aussi ; je cherchais juste à faire du « brainstorming » et à trouver l'allitération.
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Isabelle F. BRUCHER (X)
: I was just saluting the efforts of a non-native speaker to find an alliteration, but Gilles is totally right: it does sound funny in French.
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Merci, Isabelle ! after all, I didn't "invent" 'par Internet', it's something I see being used (rightly or wrongly!) by FR writers all the time ;-)
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+4
2 hrs
Alain Boulé
Native in French
Technical translation by an engineer
Native in: French
Works in: English to French, German to French
Related KudoZ points
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8
en ligne et à propos
ou à point, à point nommé.
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: My understanding of the s/t, at least.
5 mins
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Merci, I owe it to you.
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Isabelle F. BRUCHER (X)
: Logical, like "pertinent" for a News page.
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Merci
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mimi 254
17 hrs
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Jean-Claude Aciman
: ou "en ligne et pertinent"
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Gilles Nordmann
Germany
Germany
Native in French
Germany
Translations that look like originals
Native in: French (Variants: Belgian, Standard-France, Swiss) 
Works in: German to French, English to French
en ligne... de mire
Allez, soyons un peu créatifs, que diable! ;-)
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: But surely that changes the meaning completely?
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I'm not so sure... and at least it brings a drop of humor I think was intended in the original term
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Reference comments
5 hrs
Reference:
"pertinent & par internet" and "en ligne & à propos" seem to fit best in the context of a News site.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_french/linguistics/6527... :
on point: à l'avant-garde
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http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_french/business_commerc... :
on point: focalisé
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GR+C:
to the point: pertinent:
g “meaning, purpose”
■ what was the point of his visit? : quel était le but or l'objet de sa visite ?
■ there's some or a point in it : ça a une utilité
■ a long story that seemed to have no point at all : une longue histoire sans rime ni raison
■ the point of this story is that… : la morale de l'histoire, c'est que…
■ ***(very much) to the point : (très) pertinent***
■ his remarks lack point : ses remarques ne sont pas très *pertinentes*
■ the news gave point to his arguments : cette nouvelle a souligné la *pertinence* de ses arguments
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URBAN DICTIONARY has it !
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=on point
on point :
1.
a) Up to par...ready to perform at best...ready to get down to business.
b) to not be drunk/stoned..."I's all good"
a) "B*tch...you best get your shit on point" or
b) "F*ck, pigs...man throw that shit out the car and get your m.fkin shit on point..." or "Naahs man...i's got my strut on point"
2. ****to be perfect; to satisfy; whatever it was, it met the person's standards****
"Damn, that chicken was on point!"
3.
1.) On top of things, in control of the situation
She ran exactly on schedule... she's on point.
2.) Incredibly good-looking, referring to males
Holy SHIT he's on point! Look at that ass!
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Onpoint [in 1 word]
adj.
To be dope, elegant, fashionable, delgada, stylish, sexy
Yo, y'all see shorty over there at that table, thats A. Alves and she is onpoint!
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On-Point [with a dash]
Strategically and creatively using somewhat bullshit but rather witty statements made up on the fly to ease yourself out of any situation or scenario
definition 2.
bein completely on the ball and ready for anything or anybody
Wow i really like how kenny and louie are so smart and funny damn they are On-Point
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=> almost like "au point" in French, for some of these senses!
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online • on-line ['ʌnlaɪn] /Computing/
1 adjective
[business, person] ▶ **en ligne**
■ to go on-line : se mettre **en mode interactif**
■ to put the printer on-line : **connecter** l'imprimante
2 adverb
▶ en ligne
3 compounds
◆ on-line data processing noun : traitement m de données en ligne
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http://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-fra.html?la...
= many ways to translate "online" to find a rhyme/alliteration:
en direct
en ligne
en connecté
connecté
connecté à l'ordinateur
http://iate.europa.eu/iatediff/SearchByQuery.do?method=searc...
aussi: en liaison
en connexion
et fiches suivantes:
cyber-
électronique
e-
virtuel
Internet
par Internet
...
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allitération [a(l)liteʀɑsjɔ̃] n. f.
ÉTYM. 1751; angl. alliteration, du lat. littera « lettre ».
❖
◆ Rhét. Répétition des consonnes (notamment des consonnes initiales) dans une suite de mots rapprochés; par ext., répétition des mêmes phonèmes ou groupes de phonèmes (ex. : « Les souffles de la nuit flottaient sur Galgala » [Hugo, Booz endormi]). L'allitération, procédé stylistique fréquent en poésie. Allitération excessive, cacophonique (➙ Cacophonie). Allitérations et assonances*. On recourt fréquemment à l'allitération dans le style publicitaire, le slogan.
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"Slogan dans un site Web ****sous l'onglet News****.
J'essaie de rendre l'allitération du slogan"
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--> "pertinent et par internet" and "en ligne et à propos" seem to fit best in the context of a News site...
Cf. http://fr-fr.lionbridge.com/Company.aspx?pageid=2181&LangTyp... :
"Le moteur du site regroupe des ***nouvelles pertinentes***, des tendances et du contenu tiré de douzaines de sources de ***nouvelles en ligne***"
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Note added at 5 hrs (2012-08-01 18:25:44 GMT)
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Concerning Tony's solution: "Par Internet" is OK, it means "via/through/by means of the Internet", see: http://iate.europa.eu/iatediff/SearchByQuery.do?method=searc...
on point: à l'avant-garde
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http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_french/business_commerc... :
on point: focalisé
---
GR+C:
to the point: pertinent:
g “meaning, purpose”
■ what was the point of his visit? : quel était le but or l'objet de sa visite ?
■ there's some or a point in it : ça a une utilité
■ a long story that seemed to have no point at all : une longue histoire sans rime ni raison
■ the point of this story is that… : la morale de l'histoire, c'est que…
■ ***(very much) to the point : (très) pertinent***
■ his remarks lack point : ses remarques ne sont pas très *pertinentes*
■ the news gave point to his arguments : cette nouvelle a souligné la *pertinence* de ses arguments
---
URBAN DICTIONARY has it !
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=on point
on point :
1.
a) Up to par...ready to perform at best...ready to get down to business.
b) to not be drunk/stoned..."I's all good"
a) "B*tch...you best get your shit on point" or
b) "F*ck, pigs...man throw that shit out the car and get your m.fkin shit on point..." or "Naahs man...i's got my strut on point"
2. ****to be perfect; to satisfy; whatever it was, it met the person's standards****
"Damn, that chicken was on point!"
3.
1.) On top of things, in control of the situation
She ran exactly on schedule... she's on point.
2.) Incredibly good-looking, referring to males
Holy SHIT he's on point! Look at that ass!
---
Onpoint [in 1 word]
adj.
To be dope, elegant, fashionable, delgada, stylish, sexy
Yo, y'all see shorty over there at that table, thats A. Alves and she is onpoint!
---
On-Point [with a dash]
Strategically and creatively using somewhat bullshit but rather witty statements made up on the fly to ease yourself out of any situation or scenario
definition 2.
bein completely on the ball and ready for anything or anybody
Wow i really like how kenny and louie are so smart and funny damn they are On-Point
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=> almost like "au point" in French, for some of these senses!
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online • on-line ['ʌnlaɪn] /Computing/
1 adjective
[business, person] ▶ **en ligne**
■ to go on-line : se mettre **en mode interactif**
■ to put the printer on-line : **connecter** l'imprimante
2 adverb
▶ en ligne
3 compounds
◆ on-line data processing noun : traitement m de données en ligne
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http://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-fra.html?la...
= many ways to translate "online" to find a rhyme/alliteration:
en direct
en ligne
en connecté
connecté
connecté à l'ordinateur
http://iate.europa.eu/iatediff/SearchByQuery.do?method=searc...
aussi: en liaison
en connexion
et fiches suivantes:
cyber-
électronique
e-
virtuel
Internet
par Internet
...
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allitération [a(l)liteʀɑsjɔ̃] n. f.
ÉTYM. 1751; angl. alliteration, du lat. littera « lettre ».
❖
◆ Rhét. Répétition des consonnes (notamment des consonnes initiales) dans une suite de mots rapprochés; par ext., répétition des mêmes phonèmes ou groupes de phonèmes (ex. : « Les souffles de la nuit flottaient sur Galgala » [Hugo, Booz endormi]). L'allitération, procédé stylistique fréquent en poésie. Allitération excessive, cacophonique (➙ Cacophonie). Allitérations et assonances*. On recourt fréquemment à l'allitération dans le style publicitaire, le slogan.
------------------------------------------------
"Slogan dans un site Web ****sous l'onglet News****.
J'essaie de rendre l'allitération du slogan"
---
--> "pertinent et par internet" and "en ligne et à propos" seem to fit best in the context of a News site...
Cf. http://fr-fr.lionbridge.com/Company.aspx?pageid=2181&LangTyp... :
"Le moteur du site regroupe des ***nouvelles pertinentes***, des tendances et du contenu tiré de douzaines de sources de ***nouvelles en ligne***"
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Note added at 5 hrs (2012-08-01 18:25:44 GMT)
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Concerning Tony's solution: "Par Internet" is OK, it means "via/through/by means of the Internet", see: http://iate.europa.eu/iatediff/SearchByQuery.do?method=searc...
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
Tony M
: Do note, though, that those Urban Dictionary entries reflect slang usage, whereas here this is a more formal, though still slightly idiomatic, usage.
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Discussion
I would instinctively understand it as meaning the same as 'to the point', i.e. pertinent, relevant, concentrating on that which is important.
I think if you can help to clarify what may have been the intended meaning it may help to come up with something apposite.