Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
estridencia [fotografía]
English translation:
obtrusiveness
Added to glossary by
Lesley Jackson (X)
Jun 30, 2013 21:01
10 yrs ago
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Spanish term
estridencia
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
Photography/Imaging (& Graphic Arts)
Author's country unknown (possibly Ecuador): paper on aspects of publishing an art catalog to complement an exhibition.
04. REPRODUCCIONES DE OBRA
Debe ser una mirada objetiva por parte del fotógrafo sin estridencia en los ángulos de toma, la perspectiva y las longitudes focales. El fotógrafo, al igual que el diseñador gráfico, debe pasar desapercibido, acotando su mirada a una interpretación coherente con respecto de la obra y de su contexto.
Is this poor usage of "estridencia"? (the paper is full of strange usages :)
or... is it a proper term in this context?
I get the idea... that there are to be no weird shooting angles, etc.
But what's a good word here?
Many thanks.
04. REPRODUCCIONES DE OBRA
Debe ser una mirada objetiva por parte del fotógrafo sin estridencia en los ángulos de toma, la perspectiva y las longitudes focales. El fotógrafo, al igual que el diseñador gráfico, debe pasar desapercibido, acotando su mirada a una interpretación coherente con respecto de la obra y de su contexto.
Is this poor usage of "estridencia"? (the paper is full of strange usages :)
or... is it a proper term in this context?
I get the idea... that there are to be no weird shooting angles, etc.
But what's a good word here?
Many thanks.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | obtrusive |
Charles Davis
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| 4 | without empasising/without an emphasis on |
Edward Tully
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| 4 | excessive use of |
Jorge Merino
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| 4 | visual clutter/noise |
Ronaldo Bassini
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Proposed translations
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obtrusive
I'm not sure "estridencia" is exactly a proper term, but I don't find it outstandingly weird by the standards of Spanish artspeak. In fact I think it's fairly normal.
I think the sense of it is suggested by what follows, "pasar desapercibido", and the idea of objectivity. "Estridencia", to me, means something grating or strident in the sense of drawing attention to itself. I find "obtrusive" a good word here.
Literally it would give you "without obtrusiveness", but I'd suggest that a better approach might be to say "avoiding obtrusive camera angles", etc., using the adjective.
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A pleasure, Lesley. All the best.
I think the sense of it is suggested by what follows, "pasar desapercibido", and the idea of objectivity. "Estridencia", to me, means something grating or strident in the sense of drawing attention to itself. I find "obtrusive" a good word here.
Literally it would give you "without obtrusiveness", but I'd suggest that a better approach might be to say "avoiding obtrusive camera angles", etc., using the adjective.
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Note added at 4 days (2013-07-05 12:17:45 GMT) Post-grading
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A pleasure, Lesley. All the best.
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
13 mins
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Thanks, Phil
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| agree |
Lucy Phillips
: yes, and I like your suggestion of 'unobtrusive'
12 hrs
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Thanks, Lucy :) I think I'd go with "unobtrusive".
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Great work, Charles, as always... thanks."
11 mins
Edward Tully
Native in English
Because your words matter
Native in: English (Variants: US, UK) 
Works in: Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
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16
without empasising/without an emphasis on
2 options!
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"emphasising"!
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Note added at 12 mins (2013-06-30 21:13:28 GMT)
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"emphasising"!
5 hrs
Jorge Merino
Chile
Chile
Native in Spanish
Chile
Accurate technical translations
Native in: Spanish (Variant: Latin American)
Works in: English to Spanish
Related KudoZ points
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4
excessive use of
Mi reading here.
1 hr
Ronaldo Bassini
United States
United States
Native in Spanish
&
English
United States
Native in: Spanish (Variants: Mexican, Latin American) 
, English (Variant: US)
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
visual clutter/noise
I believe that the reference is to "visual noise", "visual clutter". Please see the definition of "estridente" and "estridencia" below.
More than "unobstusive" I would use something like: free of visual clutter/noise both in the angle of the take, the perspective and ....
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You're welcome, Lesley. This was an interesting question, and here we are, attempting to read into the author's mind. We so often assume they themselves were clear on their thoughts and intentions...
More than "unobstusive" I would use something like: free of visual clutter/noise both in the angle of the take, the perspective and ....
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You're welcome, Lesley. This was an interesting question, and here we are, attempting to read into the author's mind. We so often assume they themselves were clear on their thoughts and intentions...
Note from asker:
| Very interesting take on this, Ronaldo... and correct, also, I believe. But, for some reason, in this particular instance, I feel better about "unobtrusive" -- perhaps because a less "concrete" term than "visual clutter" appeals to me, given that we really aren't sure what the author means. Many thanks! |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Charles Davis
: Hi Ronaldo. I like these ideas, but "visual clutter" implies extraneous objects in shot, and "visual noise" refers to "random variation of brightness or color information in images", so I don't think they're quite suitable here.
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Thanks Charles, I understand. I still think that "estridencia" here is not about being obtrusive, but about "being loud" calling attention to oneself, not by being "obtrusive", but by being a bit of a show-off with photgraphic techniques.
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Discussion
Objectivity is of course an illusion. Any view has a shooting angle, a perspective, a focal length, which are never "objective" because they have always been selected out of a range of possibilities. But as you put it, this is saying that they should not be weird, or as I put it, they should not draw attention to themselves.
To me "obtrusive" does make sense here:
"So the gnat's eye view in a shot is rejected in favor of a more normal and less obtrusive camera angle."
http://monotremedreams.blogspot.com.es/2008/11/animation-fro...
"The stiff postures of her subjects and the strictly horizontal, minimally obtrusive perspective of her camera lens is straight out of the Jeff Wall textbook"
http://aidaforoutan.blogspot.com.es/2012/06/iranian-jeff-wal...
But you may prefer a different approach :)
In the ST there's the idea of the shot being "objective"... so I need a word that implies normal, ordinary, straightforward.
In fact, I'm wondering whether it might be best to state this in the positive instead of the negative: like, "with a straightforward (straight-on) shooting angle, standard focal length"...?