Sep 27, 2013 03:41
10 yrs ago
Russian term

ложок

Russian to English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature village prose
упали по скользкому спуску в ложок

I'm trying to get a handle on the best way to translate this. Would "brick wall" be accurate enough? I found this; both seem appropriate:

1. уменьш. от лог ◆ Потом он спустился в ложок ― там ручеёк журчит. В. М. Шукшин, «Калина красная», 1973

2. спец. длинная вертикальная грань кирпича в кладке

Multitran lists "stretcher," but that in English seems to refer to the the interlocking pattern of bricks. Not sure what to do with this. Any help greatly appreciated.

Discussion

Rachel Douglas Sep 28, 2013:
"slippery slope"... ... is a common expression in politics and is used in logic to describe a type of argument about causality. Some say that it originated with a poem about the Battle of Gettysburg, 150 years ago, when the Union line held Cemetery Ridge against Pickett's charge, in which the Confederates attacked up a slope that became slippery with blood.

"In Will Henry Thompson's 1888 poem, "High Tide at Gettysburg," the defending men in blue held the line:
'They smote and stood, who held the hope
Of nations on that slippery slope.'"
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/01/opinion/01iht-edsafire.htm...
danya Sep 28, 2013:
"slippery slopes" are a find) my conclusion was that perhaps those guys who fell knew what a лог is only approximately
Rachel Douglas Sep 27, 2013:
Grass-grown gully Yes, "gully" can be a technical term for a certain type of eroded formation, but it's also used more loosely for long depressions that are smaller than a ravine, gorge, valley, or vale, yet larger than a ditch. A grass-grown gully is called a grass-grown gully: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=bks&q="Grass-grown g...
But I don't think the reader here needs to be told whether or not it's grassy. The description says that two drunken guys on a motorcycle crashed down its slippery slopes.
danya Sep 27, 2013:
hmm Found out that ravine is a bigger gully. What is a grass- grown gully called then?
danya Sep 27, 2013:
some nit-picking Gully is more like овраг, it has loose soil in it's lowest part, whereas лог is overgrown with grass, slopes and all

Proposed translations

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small ravine

,ложок - маленький лог
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gully

Looking it up and finding that the action takes place in your forest, it seems to me that they crashed into a gully.


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Note added at 1 hr (2013-09-27 05:28:45 GMT)
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What I want to know, is how you are going to avoid writing "slid down the slippery slope"!
Peer comment(s):

agree Andrew Vdovin
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Thanks, Andrew.
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gully / gulch

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