Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

votos concurrentes

English translation:

concurrent votes

Added to glossary by lopatita
Jun 21, 2020 01:00
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Spanish term

votos concurrentes

Spanish to English Other Law: Contract(s) Funciones de la Junta Permanente de un organismo
Los ministros reservaron su derecho de formular votos particulares o voto de minoría, y los señores Ministros de la mayoría reservaron el suyo para formular, en su caso y oportunidad, votos concurrentes;

Discussion

Francois Boye Jun 23, 2020:
To clarify the meaning of 'concurrentes', my translation said 'votes in agreement'
Rebecca Jowers Jun 23, 2020:
I have to agree with AllegroTrans "Votos concurrentes" are "concurring votes" in English (i.e., votes of those joining the majority opinion). "Concurrent votes" are votes cast at the same time, such as "concurrent votes of the House and Senate" (when both houses of the US Congress vote on the same matter).
AllegroTrans Jun 23, 2020:
I fear, Asker that you have chosen the wrong answer. The meaning of "cocurrentes" here is that the majority members cast the same vote. In English we would say "concurring votes". They are not votes "that would have occurred at the same place and time"

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concurrent votes

Concurrent votes would have occurred at the same place and time. In the context, ministers from a minority reserved their right to formulate votes while ministers from a majority did the same at the same time and place (concurrently).

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Se trata de 'votos concurrentes' que tuvieron lugar a la vez en el mismo sitio.
'Votos concurrentes' are 'concurrent votes'.
Something described as concurrent happens at the same time and place as something else. Where votes are concerned in the Spanish description the issue is that they occurred at the same time and place. Whether the votes are in agreement or in opposition is another issue. The adjective to describe a vote in agreement, which is in favour of another person or something such as a legislation, is 'concurring'.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Robert Carter : ...and that is precisely the WRONG meaning here. It's a complete misunderstanding of the text. Nevertheless, "concurrent" is not specifically wrong to describe a vote in agreement, it's just fallen out of use in favor of "concurring".
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disagree AllegroTrans : No, this doesn’t mean 'at the same place and time' in THIS text
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votes in agreement

concurrir

Con el sentido de ‘convenir o estar de acuerdo’, el asunto se expresa mediante un complemento con en: «Los activistas agroecologistas [...] están en contra de las patentes sobre “formas de vida”, y en eso concurren con muchos otros ecologistas» (MtzAlier Obstáculos [Perú 1993]).
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concurring vote/s

- not concurrent meaning simultaneously and rather than assenting vs. dissenting votes cf. 'assent voting' in Canada.

Any /good-looking/ Non-Pro-Voters to expand and elaborate on this point.
Example sentence:

Can. Assent voting (or referendum allows electors to vote on whether a proposal would move forward or not.

Peer comment(s):

agree Robert Carter : I do agree that it's clearly less than ideal, simply because of it's ambiguity, and I agreed with you because this is more idiomatic, but "concurrent" does mean "in agreement" too. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/concurr...
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Thanks, Robert. Concurrent is patently a false friend, even North of the Border in Scotland. // I know - after checking the OED. Meaning no. 3: agreeing; harmonious, plus am wary of dissenting from a Scottish answer i.e. spelling of a court's judg*e*ment.
agree AllegroTrans
2 days 7 hrs
Thanks, AT.
agree Rebecca Jowers
2 days 7 hrs
Thanks, Rebecca.
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