obligaciones puras y simples

English translation: unconditional obligations

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Spanish term or phrase:obligaciones puras y simples
English translation:unconditional obligations
Entered by: Raquel Vallorani

14:31 Jul 25, 2020
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s) / poder general
Spanish term or phrase: obligaciones puras y simples
...crear o extinguir obligaciones puras y simples, condicionales, a plazo o con cargo; reconocer o confesar obligaciones preexistentes;...

Encontré el significado en español https://derecho.laguia2000.com/parte-general/obligacion-pura...

Acá otro hilo anterior traducían obligaciones simples como debentures. https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/finance-genera...

Mi duda es si debentures se utiliza para todo el concepto (puras Y simples) o hay otro equivalente en inglés. Es lo que me faltó encontrar.
Raquel Vallorani
Argentina
Local time: 00:04
unconditional obligations
Explanation:
Obligaciones Puras y Simples: Definición
Es aquella que no está sometida a ningún tipo de pluralidad. (Son aquellas cuyo cumplimiento no depende de la ocurrencia o de ningún acontecimiento o modalidad, Deben cumplirse de inmediato). El vínculo de la misma es plenamente exigible desde el comienzo de su obligación.

March | 2016 | Léxico Jurídico Español-Inglés - Rebecca Jowersrebeccajowers.com › 2016/03
https://rebeccajowers.com/2016/03/
Obligaciones puras (“unconditional obligations”) are those that are not ... and English are simply legal synonyms that are not always clearly distinguishable, ...
Puro y simple isn’t so pure and simple!
In legal contexts puro/a (y simple) cannot generally be translated literally as “pure (and simple),” since the expression often means “unconditional.” Obligaciones puras (“unconditional obligations”) are those that are not subject to any condition or term (no sujetas a ningún tipo de condición, plazo o término) and, thus, payment or performance of those obligations may be demanded at any time. Donación pura y simple denotes an “unconditional gift,” in contrast to donación modal (or) donación onerosa upon which the donor has imposed a condition or encumbrance. With regard to negotiable instruments (títulos valores), checks and bills of exchange (cheques y letras de cambio) must contain an “unconditional order to pay a fixed amount of money.” In Spanish this is expressed as un mandato puro y simple de pagar una suma determinada. And heredero puro y simple denotes an heir who accepts his inheritance unconditionally (known as aceptación pura y simple), without exercising the option to limit his liability for the debts of the inherited estate to the value of the inheritance (called beneficio de inventario).

Here it uses "pure and unconditional", but I think "unconditional" on its own will suffice.
Modalidades de las obligaciones: características y ejemplos ...www.lifeder.com › Derecho
https://www.lifeder.com/modalidades-obligaciones/
Lo primero es distinguir inicialmente entre obligaciones puras y modales ... Las obligaciones puras se entienden en contraste con las obligaciones modales, puesto que las obligaciones puras y simples ... Pure and conditional obligations.

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2 +3unconditional obligations
Taña Dalglish
4 -1basic obligations
TechLawDC
3 -1outright obligations
Barbara Cochran, MFA


  

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outright obligations


Explanation:
https://context.reverso.net/translation/spanish-english/puro...

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"total and complete obligations"

Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
Local time: 23:04
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 63

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disagree  AllegroTrans: Your Reverso references don't give the translation of the legal term which is what is needed here; "pure and simple" is not the starting point here
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basic obligations


Explanation:
Often encountered in this context.

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Entire phrase: obligaciones puras y simples, condicionales, a plazo o con cargo = debt instruments or the like, which may be basic, conditional, or time-conditioned, and which may bear a charge.
("May bear a charge" means that the entity may charge a commission or a registration fee or the like to the purchaser of the debt instrument (at least to the original purchaser).

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Alternative (better in this context): basic debt instruments.
NOTE: This is the term that accountants use. An example of a non-basic debt instrument is one that is convertible into shares.
Ref. (very authoritative and extensive):
https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/ie/Documents/...
"the criteria
prevent derivatives and instruments whose contractual terms may result in loss of
principal or accrued interest from being classified as basic."
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TechLawDC
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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disagree  AllegroTrans: You are making a lay translation (pure and simple) whereas the Spanish term has a deeper, legalese, meaning
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unconditional obligations


Explanation:
Obligaciones Puras y Simples: Definición
Es aquella que no está sometida a ningún tipo de pluralidad. (Son aquellas cuyo cumplimiento no depende de la ocurrencia o de ningún acontecimiento o modalidad, Deben cumplirse de inmediato). El vínculo de la misma es plenamente exigible desde el comienzo de su obligación.

March | 2016 | Léxico Jurídico Español-Inglés - Rebecca Jowersrebeccajowers.com › 2016/03
https://rebeccajowers.com/2016/03/
Obligaciones puras (“unconditional obligations”) are those that are not ... and English are simply legal synonyms that are not always clearly distinguishable, ...
Puro y simple isn’t so pure and simple!
In legal contexts puro/a (y simple) cannot generally be translated literally as “pure (and simple),” since the expression often means “unconditional.” Obligaciones puras (“unconditional obligations”) are those that are not subject to any condition or term (no sujetas a ningún tipo de condición, plazo o término) and, thus, payment or performance of those obligations may be demanded at any time. Donación pura y simple denotes an “unconditional gift,” in contrast to donación modal (or) donación onerosa upon which the donor has imposed a condition or encumbrance. With regard to negotiable instruments (títulos valores), checks and bills of exchange (cheques y letras de cambio) must contain an “unconditional order to pay a fixed amount of money.” In Spanish this is expressed as un mandato puro y simple de pagar una suma determinada. And heredero puro y simple denotes an heir who accepts his inheritance unconditionally (known as aceptación pura y simple), without exercising the option to limit his liability for the debts of the inherited estate to the value of the inheritance (called beneficio de inventario).

Here it uses "pure and unconditional", but I think "unconditional" on its own will suffice.
Modalidades de las obligaciones: características y ejemplos ...www.lifeder.com › Derecho
https://www.lifeder.com/modalidades-obligaciones/
Lo primero es distinguir inicialmente entre obligaciones puras y modales ... Las obligaciones puras se entienden en contraste con las obligaciones modales, puesto que las obligaciones puras y simples ... Pure and conditional obligations.

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Thank you.

Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
Local time: 22:04
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 242
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agree  David Hollywood: works for me
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