Dec 15, 2020 11:17
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Hi everyone,
Any ideas how I can distinguish this from "parcela" and "partida" in a table about a finca. They are just headers for columns under which are numbers. I see "polygon" is an option, but can't find any sources to back this up. For the moment, I have opted for "plot" for "parcela".
Cheers,
Nick
Any ideas how I can distinguish this from "parcela" and "partida" in a table about a finca. They are just headers for columns under which are numbers. I see "polygon" is an option, but can't find any sources to back this up. For the moment, I have opted for "plot" for "parcela".
Cheers,
Nick
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +3 | estate |
matt robinson
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| 4 +1 | polygon |
Steven Huddleston
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| 4 | unit /plot or parcel of land |
neilmac
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References
| Cadastral Reference |
Althea Draper
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Proposed translations
+3
6 mins
Selected
estate
or "development"
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Note added at 7 mins (2020-12-15 11:24:57 GMT)
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or even "complex". More context would be helpful.
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or even "complex". More context would be helpful.
Note from asker:
| Hi Matt, do you not think that might confusion with "finca"? From what I can see it is just an area within a "finca" or am I missing something? Is it the built-up bit of the finca? |
| Unfortunately, I really can't give more context. It's just a table and in the column "polígano" is a list of numbers. If you do to the cadastre, the information they give is "parcela" and "polígano": LocationPolígono 21 Parcela 60 |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
patinba
8 mins
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| agree |
neilmac
: Changing my previous neutral comment, because "estate" is often the right translation, although usually with several houses rather than just one, in my case.
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"Estate" with a single property conjures up an image of stately home/country pile to me, but then again I haven't seen your house!
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| agree |
Adrian MM.
: query: industrial or housing estate https://www.proz.com/personal-glossaries/entry/10643431-polí...
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
+1
9 hrs
Steven Huddleston
Mexico
Mexico
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English
Mexico
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Related KudoZ points
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12
polygon
This is the common term used in GIS applications and surveyor's reports. Due to the growing use of GIS, it is quickly being adopted by other agencies.
Peer comment(s):
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neilmac
: I'd either use "polygon" or "unit"....
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Thank you, Neilmac!
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unit /plot or parcel of land
Defined as "superficie que constituye una unidad urbanística...", "unit" is probably the best choice in this context.
Although "poligono industrial" translates as industrial estate in UK English, in the query context it refers to the plots of land for building. I know this because my address is "Poligono Veinte"...
It is partially synonymous with "finca", which is loosely used to mean a sort of larger area divided into plots or parcels. If you're already using "plot" for "parcela", I'd probably just use "polygon" or "unit" to avoid confusion.
Having said that, I must admit that it is often translated as "estate", but that is sometimes not the best translation in my opinion.
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In fact, if the "polygon" has several dwellings or buildings on it, I'd be quite happy to call it an estate, but the one I live in is an individual unit or plot.
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Based on Althea's definition ("Polígono: División del terreno... ), "division" could also be an option, although I stand by my suggestion of unit or polygon...
Although "poligono industrial" translates as industrial estate in UK English, in the query context it refers to the plots of land for building. I know this because my address is "Poligono Veinte"...
It is partially synonymous with "finca", which is loosely used to mean a sort of larger area divided into plots or parcels. If you're already using "plot" for "parcela", I'd probably just use "polygon" or "unit" to avoid confusion.
Having said that, I must admit that it is often translated as "estate", but that is sometimes not the best translation in my opinion.
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In fact, if the "polygon" has several dwellings or buildings on it, I'd be quite happy to call it an estate, but the one I live in is an individual unit or plot.
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Note added at 1 day 21 hrs (2020-12-17 08:23:29 GMT)
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Based on Althea's definition ("Polígono: División del terreno... ), "division" could also be an option, although I stand by my suggestion of unit or polygon...
Reference comments
4 hrs
Althea Draper
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
Freelance Medical Translator, MA (Hons)
Native in: English (Variants: British, Scottish)
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English, English
Reference:
Cadastral Reference
From http://www.catastro.meh.es/esp/referencia_catastral.asp#coll...
"Ejemplo 2º: 13 077 A 018 00039 0000 FP
En este caso los veinte caracteres corresponden a lo siguiente: los dos primeros identifican la provincia, los tres siguientes el municipio, el siguiente es el carácter que corresponde al sector, que señala el agregado o zona de concentración parcelaria (en su caso), los tres siguientes identifican el polígono (el término municipal se divide en polígonos en función de la homogeneidad de cultivos, existencia de accidentes geográficos, etc.), los cinco siguientes identifican cada parcela dentro del polígono correspondiente, los siguientes cuatro caracteres permitirán detectar o identificar los inmuebles existentes dentro de la parcela y, finalmente, los dos últimos son caracteres de control que cumplen idéntico cometido al señalado en el caso anterior.
Ejemplo con desglose de la referencia catastral rústica
13 077 A 018 00039 0000 FP
Provincia: 13
Municipio: 077
Sector: A
Polígono: 018
Parcela: 00039
Identificación de inmueble: 0000
Caracteres de control: FP"
You can see how the land is segmented if you go to this site here, move to the more rural areas of the map, and zoom in and out -
https://www1.sedecatastro.gob.es/Cartografia/mapa.aspx?refca...
If you click on one of the rural areas, you'll be given a breakdown of the polígono, parcela etc.
Each 'polígono' is marked in purplish blue. Within this you'll see each parcel or plot, and then within that again you'll see the individual properties.
The other reference below gives another definition
"Polígono: División del terreno de características homogéneas en función de las líneas permanentes del terreno y sus accidentes más notables como ríos, canales, arroyos, pantanos, fuentes, lagunas, vías de comunicación, límite del término municipal y clases de suelo.
Parcela: Subdivisión de las parcelas, derivadas de la no homogeneidad de alguna de sus características (ejemplo: el tipo o la intensidad del cultivo o distinto tratamiento fiscal).
Subparcela: Subdivisión de las parcelas, derivadas de la no homogeneidad de alguna de sus características (ejemplo: el tipo o la intensidad del cultivo o distinto tratamiento fiscal)."
http://www.bizkaia.eus/ogasuna/faq/faq_detalle.asp?Idioma=ca...
"Ejemplo 2º: 13 077 A 018 00039 0000 FP
En este caso los veinte caracteres corresponden a lo siguiente: los dos primeros identifican la provincia, los tres siguientes el municipio, el siguiente es el carácter que corresponde al sector, que señala el agregado o zona de concentración parcelaria (en su caso), los tres siguientes identifican el polígono (el término municipal se divide en polígonos en función de la homogeneidad de cultivos, existencia de accidentes geográficos, etc.), los cinco siguientes identifican cada parcela dentro del polígono correspondiente, los siguientes cuatro caracteres permitirán detectar o identificar los inmuebles existentes dentro de la parcela y, finalmente, los dos últimos son caracteres de control que cumplen idéntico cometido al señalado en el caso anterior.
Ejemplo con desglose de la referencia catastral rústica
13 077 A 018 00039 0000 FP
Provincia: 13
Municipio: 077
Sector: A
Polígono: 018
Parcela: 00039
Identificación de inmueble: 0000
Caracteres de control: FP"
You can see how the land is segmented if you go to this site here, move to the more rural areas of the map, and zoom in and out -
https://www1.sedecatastro.gob.es/Cartografia/mapa.aspx?refca...
If you click on one of the rural areas, you'll be given a breakdown of the polígono, parcela etc.
Each 'polígono' is marked in purplish blue. Within this you'll see each parcel or plot, and then within that again you'll see the individual properties.
The other reference below gives another definition
"Polígono: División del terreno de características homogéneas en función de las líneas permanentes del terreno y sus accidentes más notables como ríos, canales, arroyos, pantanos, fuentes, lagunas, vías de comunicación, límite del término municipal y clases de suelo.
Parcela: Subdivisión de las parcelas, derivadas de la no homogeneidad de alguna de sus características (ejemplo: el tipo o la intensidad del cultivo o distinto tratamiento fiscal).
Subparcela: Subdivisión de las parcelas, derivadas de la no homogeneidad de alguna de sus características (ejemplo: el tipo o la intensidad del cultivo o distinto tratamiento fiscal)."
http://www.bizkaia.eus/ogasuna/faq/faq_detalle.asp?Idioma=ca...
Reference:
http://www.catastro.meh.es/esp/referencia_catastral.asp#collapse_refcat1_1
http://www.bizkaia.eus/ogasuna/faq/faq_detalle.asp?Idioma=ca&idregistro=900006746
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
neilmac
: "Polígono: Unidad del terreno de características homogéneas ...." would raise no eyebrows IMHO... :)
1 day 16 hrs
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Discussion
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