surveyor of roads

French translation: inspecteur des ponts et chaussées

11:08 Dec 20, 2021

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English term or phrase: surveyor of roads

This is the profession of a person born in 1919.
It reads on his brith cerficate (UK) " Surveyor of roads (Domicil, land, Aberdeenshire)".
Thanks for your help,
NG

nicole GELISTER KudoZ activity Questions: 265 (8 open) (3 without valid answers) (39 closed without grading) Answers: 71 United Kingdom
Local time: 20:13

French translation:inspecteur des ponts et chaussées

Explanation:
I'm assuming this probably refers to someone who surveys or inspects them, rather than any kind of "géomètre"

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Tony M
France
Local time: 21:13

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2 +3

inspecteur des ponts et chaussées

Tony M

4 +1

géomètre-topographe en voirie

Bourth

3 +1

voyer/agent-voyer

Samuël Buysschaert

arpenteur des routes

MassimoA

3 -1

géomètre-expert

Robin Dufaye

Summary of reference entries provided

Ref. suggests that this is a county official's title

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12 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

inspecteur des ponts et chaussées

Explanation:
I'm assuming this probably refers to someone who surveys or inspects them, rather than any kind of "géomètre"

Tony M
France
Local time: 21:13
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 6

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Notes to answerer

Asker: thank you Tony and everyone else for your good suggestions. I am still not sure if I have to relay and how to render it 'domicil, land, Aberdeenshire', contained in the profession description but in brackets. I habve a prob with proz.com lately and the answers to my question take ages to come through. Thank you in advance Nicole

20 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

géomètre-expert

Explanation:
Pas vraiment sûr car le travail du géomètre-expert ne se limite pas aux routes...

Robin Dufaye
France
Local time: 21:13
Native speaker of: French

Notes to answerer

Asker: hello again, and thanks for all your suggestions. How would you render 'domicil (no e in 'old' spelling in Engl), land, Aberdeenshire. Not exactly sure of 'domicil' here in this context as it can have many. Thanks for any suggestion if you can. N

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

voyer/agent-voyer

Explanation:
Une suggestion,

Il s'agit peut-être de cela, dans le cadre du service vicinal peut-être, en prenant en considération l'époque et la région, il s'agit peut-être de chemins, routes,...
Donc serait l'agent qui était préposé à l'entretien de ces chemins et des rues.

voyer/agent-voyer
https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/voyer
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_voyer

Exemple de mention de "road surveyor":
https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/1950-05-15/debates/49e...
Road Work
debated on Monday 15 May 1950

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road surveyor - voyer/ agent voyer /ingénieur du service vicinal
https://gdt.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/ficheOqlf.aspx?Id_Fiche=17499517

Samuël Buysschaert
France
Local time: 21:13
Native speaker of:

French

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

géomètre-topographe en voirie

Explanation:
Or 'géomètre-topographe VRD'. You could also say 'ingénieur géomètre-topographe'.

This on a Moroccan site: "L’ingénieur géomètre topographe a un rôle important et primordial durant tout le cycle de vie d’un projet routier."

One of my uncles was an engineer whose job was that of road surveyor. I don't know that the qualification is necessarily specific to roads. I imagine it is a land surveyor who for whatever reason specializes in roads, either through inclination or just because that is the job he fell into. That's the trouble with inclinations: as any road surveyor will tell you, they can cause you to fall, or at least slide.

My father too was an engineer, in river hydraulics, and as a boy I used to accompany him during school holidays, sometimes holding the stadia rod (and usually being lambasted for not holding it still enough). He could have been called a river surveyor on those occasions.

If 'voyer' is to be translated so the modern reader has some immediate inkling of what the profession involved for a person born in 1919 (my uncle was born in 1917), something along these lines would be the solution. Otherwise 'voyer' to reflect the French term for a person of that age, though I think the meaning will not be obvious, and people will think of a man leaning on a shovel, not a man with a theodolite.

These days it would be even sexier to be called an 'ingénieur géomaticien-topographe'.

Bourth
France
Local time: 21:13
Native speaker of:

English

1 day 19 mins confidence:

arpenteur des routes

Explanation:
"surveyor" se traduit par arpenteur, mais aussi un géomètre.

MassimoA
Italy
Local time: 21:13
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Italian

Reference comments

2 days 7 hrs peer agreement (net): +1

Reference: Ref. suggests that this is a county official's title

Reference information:
Association of Road Surveyors of Scotland
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Highway Engineers’ Association of Scotland (1924 - 1936)
Institution of Municipal & County Engineers (1936 - 1984)
Institute of Civil Engineers (ICE) (1984 - present)

Established 23 July 1884
Founded at Edinburgh, Scotland
Dissolved 1924; 97 years ago
Location

Scotland Scotland

Association of Road Surveyors of Scotland (1884 - 1924) was a professional society in Scotland focused on infrastructure.
Contents

1 History
2 Presidents of Road Surveyors’ Association of Scotland
3 Presidents of Highway Engineer’s Association of Scotland
4 References

History

The Roads and Bridges (Scotland) Act 1878 enhanced the profession of Road Surveyor by organising a list of statutory highways and processes of County administration. It began the move towards County-based responsibility for the roads network and bridges, assisted by the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1889 which established County Councils.[1]

Following the 1878 Act, in 1884, around forty Scottish road surveyors decided to form an association with the object of ‘the encouragement and advancement of all matters connected with road management, and to facilitate the exchange of information and ideas amongst its members; to fix places of meeting, and transact such other business as may be necessary’.[2]

The first meeting of the new Association of Road Surveyors of Scotland was held in Edinburgh on 23 July 1884 with David Patrick of Dalry appointed the first President. Initially, there were 54 members. The association met annually and voted in a new President each year. There were two vice-Presidents, an Hon. Secretary and Treasurer, and Hon. Auditors. Meetings involved the reading of papers and discussion. There would also be trips to see bridges, roadworks, quarrying and new equipment in operation.[3]

In 1888 Sir William Arrol showed the association the Forth Bridge under construction. In 1919 the Hon. Secretary and Treasurer Allan Stevenson retired after thirty-five years in the role. His position was taken by Major William Chapman of Airdrie.[2]

In 1924 the Association decided to change their name to the Highway Engineers’ Association of Scotland. This reflected the engineering role many undertook.

In 1931 some members of the Association decided to form the Scottish County Surveyors Society. Prior to the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1929 most surveyors had remained as District Road Surveyors with the County role only taken on by some authorities, notably Midlothian. The Act brought in the widespread use of the County role. In 1937 the Scottish County Surveyors Society merged with the English and Welsh County Surveyors Society which had been founded in 1885.[4]

In 1936 the Highway Engineers’ Association of Scotland decided to merge with the Institution of Municipal & County Engineers. Part of the agreement required the Institution to include the phrase ‘Incorporating the Highway Engineer’s Association of Scotland’ for three years thereafter. In 1984 the Institution itself merged with the Institute of Civil Engineers (ICE).

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 41

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