pièces à la suite

English translation: adjoining rooms

12:10 Apr 4, 2024

French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Construction / Civil Engineering / Residential (France)

French term or phrase: pièces à la suite

A CANNES (ALPES-MARITIMES) xx Avenue yyyy,
Maison individuelle avec vue mer, accessible du boulevard par un escalier, composée de 2 niveaux non reliés entre eux :
- Un premier niveau supérieur comprenant deux pièces à la suite à usage de chambre et un cabinet de toilette avec W.C.,
- Un second niveau inférieur comprenant une cuisine, un salon/salle à manger, une salle d'eau avec W.C. et une terrasse,
- Un appentis en contrebas du jardin avec un puits fermé.
Et jardin attenant en pente.

Are these "en suite rooms" or "interconnected rooms"?

AllegroTrans KudoZ activity Questions: 470 (none open) (78 closed without grading) Answers: 7445 United Kingdom
Local time: 04:48

English translation:adjoining rooms

Explanation:
I understand it as two adjoining rooms.

Selected response from:

Kartik Isaac
Switzerland

Grading comment

4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +2

communicating rooms

Bourth

3 +2

adjoining rooms

Kartik Isaac

en-suite rooms; comprising .... at the rear

Adrian MM.

Discussion entries: 4

Answers

11 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

adjoining rooms

Explanation:
I understand it as two adjoining rooms.

Kartik Isaac
Switzerland
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks, that was also my impression

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

communicating rooms

Explanation:
I expect the idea is to be honest without being too honest ...

My immediate thought is of the chambres en enfilade so typical of the upper floor of longères. Before I bought my house here in Normandy, I visited any number of longères which had the requisite number of bedrooms but generally they included a number à la queueleuleu where to get to one bedroom you had to walk through one of more other bedrooms.

Spelling out such a situation too clearly would not make for good sales pitch. As long as you don't say what such 'communicating rooms' communicate with, prospective buyers are free to dream.

Your text could be interpreted different ways, but I understand there to be two 'communicating (bed)rooms' and a washroom of some sort with toilet. How these three communicate is not obvious, but if the lady in the next bedroom has to walk through my room to use the loo, I might not have any objection.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2024-04-04 14:59:54 GMT)
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Here in Eure you will find
"1ST FLOOR: 2 communicating bedrooms (1 double bed and 2 single beds),shower-room with toilets,"
https://en.normandie-tourisme.fr/furnished-guest-houses-and-...

For close to €2M you can have a house near Deauville (with pool; you can give your horse swimming lessons) that includes "The first floor also has two communicating bedrooms with en suite bathroom."
https://properties.lefigaro.com/announces/property-calvados-...

Still in Normandy, you can rent a place with "upstairs
distributed as follows: from the landing room serving as a small lounge:
on the left, 2 connecting rooms and bathroom (shower-sink-WC);
right: 2 communicating bedrooms and bathroom (shower-sink-WC)."
https://www.vrbo.com/1134379a

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Note added at 11 hrs (2024-04-04 23:15:28 GMT)
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I do still tend to think that here à la suite means en enfilade … but it need not always be the case, it seems.

In the following example, à la suite does mean 'adjoining', 3 bedrooms with two walls separating them all. The floor plan shows them all coming off the end of a short corridor.
"Notre 2ème idée, c'est de mettre la 3ème chambre à la place de dressing et de la salle de bain, donc nous n’aurons plus suite parentale avec notre propre dressing et SDE. Cela ferait les trois chambres à la suite, cote à cote. Comme ça, on pourrait profiter pleinement des pièces au sud pour un salon de télé et une salle à manger, et une très grande pièce à vivre du nord. "
https://www.houzz.fr/discussions/5021088/besoin-de-conseils-...

The difficulty is that the same site subsequently refers to this Proposition 2 as having Les trois chambres en enfilade (with the same floor plan), so we're really none the wiser.

Of Buckingham Palace (The Crown) it is said les appartements du haut étaient construits en enfilade, soit quatre chambres à la suite connectées par des portes plutôt que par un couloir…
https://www.vanityfair.fr/culture/ecrans/story/the-crown-l-h...

So we're still on square one.

Bourth
France
Local time: 05:48
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 93

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

philgoddard: French references would be better - we already know that 'communicating rooms' is a phrase in English - but I think this is probably the meaning.

3 hrs

agree

Daryo: Far more likely - if from each room there was only access to a corridor you would expect this corridor to be mentioned separately. Like "a corridor/entrance hall leading to room A, room B ...."

12 hrs

agree

Kartik Isaac: Better than my suggestion :)

14 hrs

-> Thanks, but your suggestion is not necessarily worse than mine: I've given an example where chambres à la suite means rooms side by side, each opening onto a corridor.

disagree

Andrew Bramhall: "communicating rooms"??? Don't think so, but the asker got it right in the end.

6 days

18 hrs confidence:

pièces à la suite; comprenant ... à la suite; en-suite rooms; comprising .... at the rear

Explanation:
A floor plan is needed to resolve the apparent ambiguity, as a matter of routine conveyancing practice.

> pièces à la suite does not seem to be a term of art and, surely, ought to have been picked up on. Otherwise, two rooms en suite would connote a bathroom connected to the bedroom, as in '... à usage de chambre et un cabinet de toilette avec W.C.,'

... à la suite : to the rear; posterior, Ernst, Dictionnaire Gen. de la technique industrielle.

se mettre à la suite: join the back of the queue, Harrap's

Example sentence(s):

en suite: used to describe a bathroom that is directly connected to a bedroom, or a bedroom that is connected to a bathroom:

Reference: http://www.proz.com/personal-glossaries/entry/1536982-à-la-s...
Reference: http://iate.europa.eu/search/result/1712297037241/1

Adrian MM.
Austria
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 11

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