Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
taillés par un verrier
English translation:
handmade by a glassblower
Added to glossary by
rkillings
Feb 19, 2008 22:36
16 yrs ago
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French term
Spain
Translator/writer (medical/pharma specn)
Native in: English
Works in: Greek to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 2 more.
taillés par un verrier
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This is taken from a laboratory protocol (giving step-by-step instruction to perform a particular task). It's one of the first lines stating the required materials
o Flacons verre 30ml taillés par un verrier...
How would you translate "taillés par un verrier" What does this extra piece of information really mean?
Thanks
o Flacons verre 30ml taillés par un verrier...
How would you translate "taillés par un verrier" What does this extra piece of information really mean?
Thanks
Proposed translations
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| 2 | etched by the manufacturer |
rkillings
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| 4 +2 | made by a (professional) glassblower |
Bourth (X)
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| 5 | handmade opposed to manufactured |
Drmanu49
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| 1 | ground glass joints |
Claire Chapman
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| 1 | bulbous |
Jack Dunwell
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Proposed translations
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etched by the manufacturer
There seem to be numerous ways of applying markings and making those "ground glass" surfaces on necks and stoppers. "Etched" might be understood to cover them all.
According to Corning Life Sciences:
"Calibrated Ware Markings:
Lines on graduated ware may be acid etched, wheel engraved, abrasive blasted, enameled or permanently stained into the glass. Etched or engraved lines are usually colored by fired-in enamels. The width of the lines should not exceed 0.4mm for subdivided ware or 0.6mm for single line ware. In addition to the lines the ware should be marked with its capacity, the temperature at which it should be used and whether the piece was calibrated T.C., “to contain” or T.D., “to deliver” the stated volume. T.C. means that the ware is calibrated so that the mark indicates the volume held in the container. T.D. means the mark indicates the amount of air-free distilled water at 20°C that is delivered when it is poured out. Numbers indicating volume at certain lines are placed immediately above the line. Volumetric flask markings must cover at least 90% of the neck circumference."
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-02-20 00:25:07 GMT)
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Of course, "blasted" might cover them all too. :-)
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Note added at 21 hrs (2008-02-20 20:14:48 GMT) Post-grading
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Retract! The sense here does seem to be "made to order".
For more on verriers, see http://www.ecu.edu/glassblowing/gb.htm
According to Corning Life Sciences:
"Calibrated Ware Markings:
Lines on graduated ware may be acid etched, wheel engraved, abrasive blasted, enameled or permanently stained into the glass. Etched or engraved lines are usually colored by fired-in enamels. The width of the lines should not exceed 0.4mm for subdivided ware or 0.6mm for single line ware. In addition to the lines the ware should be marked with its capacity, the temperature at which it should be used and whether the piece was calibrated T.C., “to contain” or T.D., “to deliver” the stated volume. T.C. means that the ware is calibrated so that the mark indicates the volume held in the container. T.D. means the mark indicates the amount of air-free distilled water at 20°C that is delivered when it is poured out. Numbers indicating volume at certain lines are placed immediately above the line. Volumetric flask markings must cover at least 90% of the neck circumference."
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-02-20 00:25:07 GMT)
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Of course, "blasted" might cover them all too. :-)
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Note added at 21 hrs (2008-02-20 20:14:48 GMT) Post-grading
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Retract! The sense here does seem to be "made to order".
For more on verriers, see http://www.ecu.edu/glassblowing/gb.htm
Note from asker:
| oops, i meant to select another answer - sorry rkillings |
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Comment: "I used 'custom-made' but this is the closest answer. Thanks to everyone for the most passionate discussion I'm ever likely to have on laboratory equipment ! "
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Claire Chapman
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ground glass joints
Check out the following links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratory_flask
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_glass_joint
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratory_flask
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_glass_joint
8 hrs
bulbous
8 am. This would be the effect of a glassblower's work...(taillé?)
11 hrs
handmade opposed to manufactured
Handmade glass information. This website is devoted to sharing information ... There I learned to make specialized and one-of-a-kind laboratory apparatus, ...
www.handmade-glass.com/brad.html - 9k
www.handmade-glass.com/brad.html - 9k
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made by a (professional) glassblower
Parmi les métiers les plus divers qui permettent aux enseignants-chercheurs de remplir pleinement leur mission d’enseignement et de recherche et aux étudiants de s’initier aux travaux pratiques et de les réussir avec succès, il en est un ignoré de beaucoup et qui est pourtant un vieux métier à l’université : celui de VERRIER DE LABORATOIRE plus souvent appelé « SOUFFLEUR DE VERRE ». Ils sont quatre sur le campus de Beaulieu - dont un à l’école de chimie - à pratiquer ce métier.
www.spc.univ-rennes1.fr/Rennes1Campus/1997/n40.pdf
GLASS BLOWER, LABORATORY APPARATUS (glass products; inst. & app.) alternate titles:
glass technologist Develops specifications for glass component parts and apparatus, such as test tubes, retorts, and flasks, used in medical and laboratory products, and blows and shapes glass to required dimensions, applying knowledge of glass technology and glass blowing techniques:
http://www.occupationalinfo.org/77/772281010.html
Academic friends of mine were given training in glassblowing for laboratory purposes in their "Chemistry 101" classes 30 years ago but will readily admit it was a waste of time since when special vessels are required, a full-time professional will do a MUCH better job ...
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I will readily admit I find the use of "tailler" strange in this context, but note too the similarity with the expression "tailler une pipe" (give s.o. a bl*wj*b).
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Apart from blowing laboratory glassware, it appears a glassblower may be called upon to "tailler" (presumably cut down to size) existant (presumably industrial) glassware to meet special purposes :
La plupart des pipettes, béchers et éprouvettes employés dans les laboratoires sont produits en industrie. Mais la fabrication de pièces complexes comme les rampes à vide est laissée aux soins du souffleur de verre. Son travail consiste aussi à TAILLER sur mesure toutes sortes de verreries pour les besoins particuliers des professeurs et des étudiants. « On peut lui demander presque n’importe quoi», affirme le professeur Davit Zargarian, pour qui le spécialiste vient de terminer une pièce thermostatée.
http://www.iforum.umontreal.ca/Forum/ArchivesForum/2003-2004...
That blows my fantasy about glassblowing ...
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Note added at 23 hrs (2008-02-20 22:30:52 GMT) Post-grading
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Don't worry about it Andy; Bob needs the points ;-)
www.spc.univ-rennes1.fr/Rennes1Campus/1997/n40.pdf
GLASS BLOWER, LABORATORY APPARATUS (glass products; inst. & app.) alternate titles:
glass technologist Develops specifications for glass component parts and apparatus, such as test tubes, retorts, and flasks, used in medical and laboratory products, and blows and shapes glass to required dimensions, applying knowledge of glass technology and glass blowing techniques:
http://www.occupationalinfo.org/77/772281010.html
Academic friends of mine were given training in glassblowing for laboratory purposes in their "Chemistry 101" classes 30 years ago but will readily admit it was a waste of time since when special vessels are required, a full-time professional will do a MUCH better job ...
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-02-19 23:59:15 GMT)
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I will readily admit I find the use of "tailler" strange in this context, but note too the similarity with the expression "tailler une pipe" (give s.o. a bl*wj*b).
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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-02-20 00:54:45 GMT)
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Apart from blowing laboratory glassware, it appears a glassblower may be called upon to "tailler" (presumably cut down to size) existant (presumably industrial) glassware to meet special purposes :
La plupart des pipettes, béchers et éprouvettes employés dans les laboratoires sont produits en industrie. Mais la fabrication de pièces complexes comme les rampes à vide est laissée aux soins du souffleur de verre. Son travail consiste aussi à TAILLER sur mesure toutes sortes de verreries pour les besoins particuliers des professeurs et des étudiants. « On peut lui demander presque n’importe quoi», affirme le professeur Davit Zargarian, pour qui le spécialiste vient de terminer une pièce thermostatée.
http://www.iforum.umontreal.ca/Forum/ArchivesForum/2003-2004...
That blows my fantasy about glassblowing ...
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Note added at 23 hrs (2008-02-20 22:30:52 GMT) Post-grading
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Don't worry about it Andy; Bob needs the points ;-)
Note from asker:
| oops meant to select this |
Peer comment(s):
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rkillings
: Normally a flacon taillé would be made of *cut glass* -- not normally used in a lab. Maybe the writer means 'gravé' = etched, either with graduated markings or etched stopper joints as GWC-Claire suggests.
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See ref. above to glassblowers adapting existant glassware.
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Tony M
: I would say that 'tailler' here means 'cut to size', as in 'tailler une haie', for example (nothing to do with blowing here!)
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Sara Mullin
: I also think "cut to size" http://www.granddictionnaire.com/btml/fra/r_motclef/index800...
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