Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
des «intrus»
English translation:
intruders, intruder priests
Added to glossary by
Elena Robert
Mar 10, 2006 21:57
18 yrs ago
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French term
France
Style et précision.
Native in: Russian (Variant: Standard-Russia)
Works in: English to Russian, French to Russian, Russian to French, and 1 more.
des «intrus»
French to English
Art/Literary
History
French Revolution
Pour des raisons financières; les révolutionnaires décident de nationaliser les biens de l’Eglise. et en 1791 entreprennent de remplacer les « bons prêtres », qui ont refusée de signer La Constitution civile du clergé, par des ***«intrus»*** : la situation devient insurrectionnelle
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intruders, intruder priests, constitutional priests
curés assermentés ou constitutionnels que la population appelle «les intrus». ...
museepaysderetz.free.fr/1789-1989_08.html
On les appelait les « intrus », devenus curés d'une paroisse où ils n'avaient pas de titre canonique. ...
www.guengat.com/5/Revolution3.html
parishioners remain loyal to familiar priests who refused the oath (the refractory clergy), and thus be at odds with the state? Or should they accept the ministry of constitutional clergy sent in to replace them?
http://mars.wnec.edu/~grempel/courses/wc2/lectures/rev892.ht...
During the French Revolution it remained entirely loyal to the Church and to the ... Churches served by the "intruder-priests" - curés truttons [sic?] as they were ...
www.ad2000.com.au/articles/1996/jul1996p12_799.html
In these it was stated that it was not allowable for any one to receive the sacraments from the hands of the constitutional priests, who were designated as intruders; that all who participated in them became guilty, by their mere presence, of mortal sin; that those who were married by the intruder should not be regarded as married; that they would draw down a curse upon themselves and their children
http://www.west.net/~antipas/eureka/eureka_3/c16_c01.html
museepaysderetz.free.fr/1789-1989_08.html
On les appelait les « intrus », devenus curés d'une paroisse où ils n'avaient pas de titre canonique. ...
www.guengat.com/5/Revolution3.html
parishioners remain loyal to familiar priests who refused the oath (the refractory clergy), and thus be at odds with the state? Or should they accept the ministry of constitutional clergy sent in to replace them?
http://mars.wnec.edu/~grempel/courses/wc2/lectures/rev892.ht...
During the French Revolution it remained entirely loyal to the Church and to the ... Churches served by the "intruder-priests" - curés truttons [sic?] as they were ...
www.ad2000.com.au/articles/1996/jul1996p12_799.html
In these it was stated that it was not allowable for any one to receive the sacraments from the hands of the constitutional priests, who were designated as intruders; that all who participated in them became guilty, by their mere presence, of mortal sin; that those who were married by the intruder should not be regarded as married; that they would draw down a curse upon themselves and their children
http://www.west.net/~antipas/eureka/eureka_3/c16_c01.html
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Comment: "Many thanks to all. Especially for the links. I just didn't want "to invent a bicycle"."
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outsiders/interlopers
perhaps in this case as it's in inverted commas
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sporran
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thanks sporran
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Dr Sue Levy (X)
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thanks Sue :-)
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NancyLynn
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Paul Kozelka
: outsiders
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thanks Paul. Yes, it's the one I prefer too.
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Assimina Vavoula
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Miranda Joubioux (X)
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Thanks Miranda
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Cervin
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thanks Janet :-)
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Valérie Cromphaut
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thanks Valérie
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IC --
Works in field
the third persons/parties/ the others
According to the context, it might as well be in this sense...
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Impostor priests constitutional/State/Elected priests
Thomas Carlyle : The French Revolution : Chapter 2.4.I. Easter at ...The French Revolution. by Thomas Carlyle ... Expelled from their Parish Churches, where Constitutional Priests, elected by the Public, have replaced them, ...
www.classicreader.com/read.php/sid.2/bookid.106/sec.76/ - 20k - Cached - Similar pages
Una Birch, Religious Liberty and the French Revolution4] “ After two bishops and three priests had refused the oath, and four had taken it, ... and he was to sanction the Church disendowment of 1791. ...
yamaguchy.netfirms.com/una/una_rev_02.html - 85k - Cached - Similar pages
WHKMLA : History of France, Domestic Policy 1789-1792Priests were to be elected, monasteries dissolved, the vast estates of the church confiscated and auctioned off. In September 1791, a new CONSTITUTION was ...
www.zum.de/whkmla/region/france/france17891792dom.html - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
www.classicreader.com/read.php/sid.2/bookid.106/sec.76/ - 20k - Cached - Similar pages
Una Birch, Religious Liberty and the French Revolution4] “ After two bishops and three priests had refused the oath, and four had taken it, ... and he was to sanction the Church disendowment of 1791. ...
yamaguchy.netfirms.com/una/una_rev_02.html - 85k - Cached - Similar pages
WHKMLA : History of France, Domestic Policy 1789-1792Priests were to be elected, monasteries dissolved, the vast estates of the church confiscated and auctioned off. In September 1791, a new CONSTITUTION was ...
www.zum.de/whkmla/region/france/france17891792dom.html - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
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Bourth (X)
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jurors
Well, Ive just found an article on the revolution in The Vendee where apparently the entire priesthood refused to sign the constitution of the clergy. In this article the term 'jurors ' is used for intrudors:
The Civil Constitution required all clerics to swear allegiance to it and by extension to the increasingly anti-clerical National Constituent Assembly. The Vendean clergy almost universally refused to swear the oath and were replaced by clergy appointed and approved by the Revolutionary authorities, known as jurors, who were almost universally disliked - condemned as intruders.....
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Sorry 'intruders'......
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I've been thinking about this all day!!! It cant really be jurors unless I suppose it could be justified by one of its meanings-'someone who takes an oath' but that misses the point so I'm going to agree with suezen!
The Civil Constitution required all clerics to swear allegiance to it and by extension to the increasingly anti-clerical National Constituent Assembly. The Vendean clergy almost universally refused to swear the oath and were replaced by clergy appointed and approved by the Revolutionary authorities, known as jurors, who were almost universally disliked - condemned as intruders.....
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Note added at 10 hrs (2006-03-11 08:49:33 GMT)
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Sorry 'intruders'......
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Note added at 15 hrs (2006-03-11 13:55:17 GMT)
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I've been thinking about this all day!!! It cant really be jurors unless I suppose it could be justified by one of its meanings-'someone who takes an oath' but that misses the point so I'm going to agree with suezen!
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Bourth (X)
: It's badly written, I think, and "jurors" refers to "Revolutionary authorities"
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