Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
engagé dans la lutte pour le respect de la justice
English translation:
actively committed to the enforcement of Justice
Added to glossary by
Francis Marche
Apr 28, 2006 11:50
18 yrs ago
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French term
Switzerland
la lutte pour le respect de la justice
French to English
Social Sciences
International Org/Dev/Coop
This is the description of an aide organization's goal, from several in a list.
The entire phrase is:
Exprime sa solidarité avec les individualités ou associations engagées dans la lutte pour le respect de la justice et en faveur de la Paix.
The meaning of this phrase is clear but I'm having trouble getting it into an English phrase that flows nicely. The only thing coming to mind is 'engaged in the fight against crime' but I think 'justice' encompasses much more than just crime. I know also that la lutte can be synonymous with 'policy' but I'm not sure that fits this context exactly.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
The entire phrase is:
Exprime sa solidarité avec les individualités ou associations engagées dans la lutte pour le respect de la justice et en faveur de la Paix.
The meaning of this phrase is clear but I'm having trouble getting it into an English phrase that flows nicely. The only thing coming to mind is 'engaged in the fight against crime' but I think 'justice' encompasses much more than just crime. I know also that la lutte can be synonymous with 'policy' but I'm not sure that fits this context exactly.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
Proposed translations
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| 4 | committed to the enforcement of Justice and the promotion of Peace |
Francis Marche
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| 3 +6 | engaged in the struggle/fight/call for peace and social justice |
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| 4 | the fight for justice |
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Proposed translations
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Francis Marche
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36 years experience on 4 continents
Native in: French 
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Works in: English to French, French to English
Related KudoZ points
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committed to the enforcement of Justice and the promotion of Peace
"engagé" is ****committed to ***** (a policy, ideals, etc.) in NGO speak.
and "le respect" de la justice is indeed a concept: "enforcement".
Law enforcement : l'application or "le respect" des lois. "Faire respecter la justice": to enforce justice.
From an Hansard:
Another reason is that it is appropriate for the government to be involved in the enforcement of law, ******the enforcement of justice*****. I am noted for being even a conservatives' Conservative and am not always so pleased with some of the more redistributive elements, shall we say, of economic packages that tend to go out, that tend to be a large element of our political discourse. But the government has an appropriate force to use, and that is in the enforcement of the rule of law and ********the enforcement of justice********.
no "fight" nor "struggle" here: it's only an aid organization, not a militant group.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2006-04-29 02:50:14 GMT)
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Working for peace with justice in Lawrence and around the world since 1976
What is the LCPJ?
A group of diverse individuals *****actively committed to the promotion of peace and justice***** in our community and the world.
http://www.lcpj.org/intro.html
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Note added at 15 hrs (2006-04-29 02:54:01 GMT)
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"engagé dans la lutte pour": *actively committed to the promotion of*
and "le respect" de la justice is indeed a concept: "enforcement".
Law enforcement : l'application or "le respect" des lois. "Faire respecter la justice": to enforce justice.
From an Hansard:
Another reason is that it is appropriate for the government to be involved in the enforcement of law, ******the enforcement of justice*****. I am noted for being even a conservatives' Conservative and am not always so pleased with some of the more redistributive elements, shall we say, of economic packages that tend to go out, that tend to be a large element of our political discourse. But the government has an appropriate force to use, and that is in the enforcement of the rule of law and ********the enforcement of justice********.
no "fight" nor "struggle" here: it's only an aid organization, not a militant group.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2006-04-29 02:50:14 GMT)
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Working for peace with justice in Lawrence and around the world since 1976
What is the LCPJ?
A group of diverse individuals *****actively committed to the promotion of peace and justice***** in our community and the world.
http://www.lcpj.org/intro.html
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Note added at 15 hrs (2006-04-29 02:54:01 GMT)
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"engagé dans la lutte pour": *actively committed to the promotion of*
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you everyone - my brain was disconnected yesterday and everyone's suggestions brought me back where I should have been. Francis Marche's answer most closely fits the organization I am dealing with here. Merci!"
8 hrs
the fight for justice
The "respect of (justice)" is indissociable from justice itself and is therefore superfluous.
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Note added at 8 hrs (2006-04-28 20:19:29 GMT)
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The concept of justice goes beyond that of "social" justice and should perhaps not become limited by such an adjective in translation
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Note added at 8 hrs (2006-04-28 20:19:29 GMT)
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The concept of justice goes beyond that of "social" justice and should perhaps not become limited by such an adjective in translation
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engaged in the struggle/fight/call for peace and social justice
Struggle for Peace and Social Justice ... It’sa bumper sticker many of us on the frontlines of the fight against the United ...
www.dissidentvoice.org/
Your struggle for peace and justice will be part of our thoughts and of our campaign. ...
www.rawa.org/mar899me.htm - 43k
Call the Peace and Social Justice Center for more information, 316-263-5886 ...
www.wichitapeace.org/ - 32k
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or ... for respect and justice as well as peace
respect and justice, as well as the peace and sustainable development of ...
www.alternatives.ca/article99.html - 44k
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Join the struggle for social justice in Africa - subscribe now! ... The international humanitarian aid organisation Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) says that ...
www.pambazuka.org/en/category/conflict/page/5 - 25k
in their struggle for fundamental rights, peace with social justice and a ...
www.justiceforcolombia.org/about.html - 14k
For his struggle for the cause of the Roma population in Austria and in seeking social justice for all Roma and Sinti people ...
www.eaea.org/news.php?aid=9244& d=2006-02 - 35k
www.dissidentvoice.org/
Your struggle for peace and justice will be part of our thoughts and of our campaign. ...
www.rawa.org/mar899me.htm - 43k
Call the Peace and Social Justice Center for more information, 316-263-5886 ...
www.wichitapeace.org/ - 32k
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Note added at 10 mins (2006-04-28 12:01:15 GMT)
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or ... for respect and justice as well as peace
respect and justice, as well as the peace and sustainable development of ...
www.alternatives.ca/article99.html - 44k
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Note added at 18 hrs (2006-04-29 05:57:06 GMT)
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Join the struggle for social justice in Africa - subscribe now! ... The international humanitarian aid organisation Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) says that ...
www.pambazuka.org/en/category/conflict/page/5 - 25k
in their struggle for fundamental rights, peace with social justice and a ...
www.justiceforcolombia.org/about.html - 14k
For his struggle for the cause of the Roma population in Austria and in seeking social justice for all Roma and Sinti people ...
www.eaea.org/news.php?aid=9244& d=2006-02 - 35k
Peer comment(s):
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Pierre POUSSIN
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LAB2004
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Susana Magnani
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Leny Vargas
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Aisha Maniar
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Alison Jenner
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MDI-IDM
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Francis Marche
: if I may voice my dissent: no "struggle" and no "fight" here if an aid organization. And I read no "fight" or "struggle" in the title of the pambazoka forum - these two English terms are just calques for "lutte" that miss the point altogether
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www.pambazuka.org/en/category/conflict/page/5 - 25k just one example where it is used
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