Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
absence de mandat
English translation:
No Agency
Added to glossary by
Fiona McBrearty
Mar 26, 2008 18:09
16 yrs ago
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French term
absence de mandat
French to English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
No sure how to translate this in legalese...
ART 14 ABSENCE DE MANDAT
Le contrat ne pourra être réputé constituer un engagement de mandat ou de société entre les parties ; En conséquence, le Distributeur s'engage à : ne pas déclarer ou agir comme s'il était mandataire ou un associé du Fournisseur, ne pas recevoir de somme d'argent, ou émettre un récépissé au nom et pour le compte du Fournisseur, ne pas contracter d'obligations, ni de faire aucune promesse ou déclaration au nom et pour le compte du Fournisseur.
ART 14 ABSENCE DE MANDAT
Le contrat ne pourra être réputé constituer un engagement de mandat ou de société entre les parties ; En conséquence, le Distributeur s'engage à : ne pas déclarer ou agir comme s'il était mandataire ou un associé du Fournisseur, ne pas recevoir de somme d'argent, ou émettre un récépissé au nom et pour le compte du Fournisseur, ne pas contracter d'obligations, ni de faire aucune promesse ou déclaration au nom et pour le compte du Fournisseur.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 +1 | No Agency |
Christian Robitaille
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| 3 +2 | absence of agency relationship |
cmwilliams (X)
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| 3 +1 | In the absence of a mandate |
Joseph Duncan
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| 4 | absence of representation |
Nina Iordache
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| 4 -1 | In the absence of a proxy |
Jack Dunwell
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Change log
Mar 26, 2008 19:43: Gayle Wallimann changed "Term asked" from "ABSENCE DE MANDAT" to "absence de mandat"
Proposed translations
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1 day 11 hrs
Christian Robitaille
Canada
Canada
Native in French
Specializes in field
Canada
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, French to English, Spanish to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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34
Selected
No Agency
1- Le "mandat" du droit civil trouve son équivalent en common law dans l'"agency".
2- Les contrats comportent souvent une clause semblable à celle citée. Et selon l'usage en anglais, on coiffe habituellement une telle clause du sous-titre "No Agency".
2- Les contrats comportent souvent une clause semblable à celle citée. Et selon l'usage en anglais, on coiffe habituellement une telle clause du sous-titre "No Agency".
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Yes, that's great. You didn't actually say it precisely like that cmwilliams so I don't feel I can give you the prize"
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6 mins
In the absence of a proxy
sic
Peer comment(s):
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Attorney DC Bar
: proxies are usually given for shareholders' meetings. This is much broader.
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Rufinus, perhaps you're right. "Represents", yes, "Power of Attorney" No.My own approach is not to use the Red button on the basis that we're all doing our best. Yr thoughts?
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In the absence of a mandate
/in the absence of requirements
I'm not sure why the litteral translation doesn't work here.
I'm not sure why the litteral translation doesn't work here.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Aude Sylvain
: agree but combining this with Cmwilliams' syntax: "absence of mandate" - see http://books.google.fr/books?id=22PNfVTvbsYC&pg=PT312&lpg=PT...
4 hrs
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3 hrs
absence of agency relationship
I think this clause is establishing that there is no agency agreement between the parties. There may be a better way of expressing this - Non-agency clause??? No agency relationship???
In any case, I wouldn't use "in the absence of..." as this seems to suggest that what follows should provide for what will happen if there is no "mandat", whereas this clause is saying that there shall be no "mandat" (which I believe is agency in this case).
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Note added at 15 hrs (2008-03-27 09:12:44 GMT)
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SUPPLIER shall endeavour to supply DISTRIBUTOR promptly, information concerning additions, ... NO AGENCY RELATIONSHIP It is expressly understood and agreed, ...
www.secinfo.com/d1Ze2u.3jp.x.htm
Scott Distributor Connection AND/OR ITS SUPPLIERS MAKE NO ... You agree that no joint venture, partnership, employment, or agency relationship exists ...
www.scotthealthsafety.com/connect/Default.aspx?tabid=1&def=...
If you are considering appointing or acting as a distributor there are several ... A supplier should therefore expressly disclaim any agency relationship in ...
www.leepriestley.com/articles/index.cfm?areaID=26&aID
In any case, I wouldn't use "in the absence of..." as this seems to suggest that what follows should provide for what will happen if there is no "mandat", whereas this clause is saying that there shall be no "mandat" (which I believe is agency in this case).
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Note added at 15 hrs (2008-03-27 09:12:44 GMT)
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SUPPLIER shall endeavour to supply DISTRIBUTOR promptly, information concerning additions, ... NO AGENCY RELATIONSHIP It is expressly understood and agreed, ...
www.secinfo.com/d1Ze2u.3jp.x.htm
Scott Distributor Connection AND/OR ITS SUPPLIERS MAKE NO ... You agree that no joint venture, partnership, employment, or agency relationship exists ...
www.scotthealthsafety.com/connect/Default.aspx?tabid=1&def=...
If you are considering appointing or acting as a distributor there are several ... A supplier should therefore expressly disclaim any agency relationship in ...
www.leepriestley.com/articles/index.cfm?areaID=26&aID
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Aude Sylvain
: I fully agree with your proposed syntax, but I think that "agency" may be broader than "mandate" if we remain in a strictly legal field
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thanks, but as this appears to be a distribution agreement, I believe they are saying that there is no principal-agent relationship.
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Attorney DC Bar
: 'No Agency' would do it as an article heading. See, eg "8.5 No Agency. Neither party is to be construed as the agent, partner, or joint venturer or to be acting as the agent, partner or joint venturer of the other party hereunder in any respect..."
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thanks!
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| agree |
Jack Przybylski
: Agree with rufinus: "No Agency" as article heading sounds fine to me.
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Thanks
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Nina Iordache
Romania
Romania
Specializes in field
Romania
Native in: Romanian (Variant: Romania) 
Works in: English to Romanian, French to English, French to Romanian, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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6
absence of representation
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a728114991~...
and:
for absence of legal representation:
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2004/nigeria0904/6.htm
and:
for absence of legal representation:
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2004/nigeria0904/6.htm
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