Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Apr 17, 2005 20:04
19 yrs ago
French term
Ringard
French to English
Art/Literary
Music
My French friend called Elvis Presley "Ringard" and "de ringard des ringards"
Proposed translations
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| 3 +2 | cheesy |
Erik Macki
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| 4 +2 | has-been |
Francis MARC
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| 5 +1 | corny |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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| 3 +1 | tacky |
writeaway
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| 4 | old hat |
Charlie Bavington
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Proposed translations
+2
9 hrs
Erik Macki
Native in English
Published Translator
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: German to English, French to English, Dutch to English, and 3 more.
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cheesy
Of the suggestions already given I think corny and tacky are close to the right sense here, but I'll also offer cheesy as another option. Cheesy has connotations of shabiness, low quality, or fakeness (cf. Merriam-Webster). Corny emphasizes awkward or excessive sentimentality; tacky emphasizes tastelessness. Certainly, if I were describing Elvis impersonators I'd sooner call him (or her!) cheesy than corny. But all these terms might fit the context a bit.
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+2
52 mins
has-been
dans ce contexte, plutôt que "old-fashioned" qui est dans le glossaire
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... Par contre si \"has been\" veut dire ringard, c\'est un point de vue que je ne
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Note added at 54 mins (2005-04-17 20:59:03 GMT)
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Accueil de tomawack\'99
... C\'est dire ! Néanmoins, n\'est pas ringard qui veut, c\'est pourquoi les \"has been\" sont en GuestStar sur tomawack\'99 ! ...
tomawack99.free.fr/accueil.htm - 15k
Paroles.net - Bernard Lavilliers - Ringard pour le reggae
Les paroles de la chanson : Ringard pour le reggae : Bernard Lavilliers. ...
Tu voudrais être in t\'es has been Tu voudrais mordre mais tu lèches ...
www.paroles.net/chansons/21269.htm - 6k
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has-been Source
célébrité démonétisée
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Note added at 53 mins (2005-04-17 20:58:08 GMT)
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***Musiques [Que pensez vous du black metal?] × XSILENCE.NET ×
... Par contre si \"has been\" veut dire ringard, c\'est un point de vue que je ne
... Bon alors has been ca veut bien dire ringard, donc on dit pas le black c ...
www.xsilence.net/forum-13ll11335l43.htm - 62k
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Note added at 54 mins (2005-04-17 20:59:03 GMT)
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Accueil de tomawack\'99
... C\'est dire ! Néanmoins, n\'est pas ringard qui veut, c\'est pourquoi les \"has been\" sont en GuestStar sur tomawack\'99 ! ...
tomawack99.free.fr/accueil.htm - 15k
Paroles.net - Bernard Lavilliers - Ringard pour le reggae
Les paroles de la chanson : Ringard pour le reggae : Bernard Lavilliers. ...
Tu voudrais être in t\'es has been Tu voudrais mordre mais tu lèches ...
www.paroles.net/chansons/21269.htm - 6k
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Anna Maria Augustine (X)
1 hr
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| agree |
Sandra C.
2 hrs
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| neutral |
writeaway
: how can a dead person be anything but a has been?
2 hrs
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"has-been" is not "has been alive", but "has been famous"!
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| neutral |
Charlie Bavington
: tend to agree with writeaway - has-been *does* tend to get used for people who are still alive.
2 hrs
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| neutral |
Erik Macki
: I'm with writeaway too in this case.
8 hrs
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+1
3 hrs
+1
3 hrs
tacky
the tackiest of the tacky
based on his clothes, appearence, behaviour, antics etc. can't imagine it's about his music......
based on his clothes, appearence, behaviour, antics etc. can't imagine it's about his music......
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Charlie Bavington
: dunno, the music's not exactly cutting edge by today's standards :-) "Always on my mind" is the only track that still sounds anything like fresh to me. There again, I tend to prefer music that sends normal people running to the hills... :-)
5 mins
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| agree |
Ian Burley (X)
: or even "the King of tack"
7 hrs
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3 hrs
Charlie Bavington
Native in English
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Native in: English
Works in: French to English
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4
old hat
which is close to "old fashioned" in meaning, but whereas old-fashioned is neutral (and even positive in some contexts), "old hat" is pejorative.
"as old hat as it gets" would be my suggestion for "ringard des ringards".
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Note added at 4 hrs 3 mins (2005-04-18 00:08:16 GMT)
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The thing is, IMO, you have to translate in order to get across what you think the person is trying to say. Some, and I think writeaway may be in their number (!), clearly do not consider The King to be old hat. That, I would submit, your honour, should not colour the term used to translate \"ringard\", otherwise why not go the whole hog and translate it as \"as relevant today as he ever was\" :-).
Personally, I have absolutely no problem whatsoever calling Elvis old hat, dated, drivel. Massively influential old hat dated drivel, yes of course, but still old hat. I rest my case (but nowhere near my blue suede shoes) :-)
"as old hat as it gets" would be my suggestion for "ringard des ringards".
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The thing is, IMO, you have to translate in order to get across what you think the person is trying to say. Some, and I think writeaway may be in their number (!), clearly do not consider The King to be old hat. That, I would submit, your honour, should not colour the term used to translate \"ringard\", otherwise why not go the whole hog and translate it as \"as relevant today as he ever was\" :-).
Personally, I have absolutely no problem whatsoever calling Elvis old hat, dated, drivel. Massively influential old hat dated drivel, yes of course, but still old hat. I rest my case (but nowhere near my blue suede shoes) :-)
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: Fred Astaire is old hat, Sinatra and those crooners are old hat but Presley? just because nowadays everything that comes out is dead in the water...
10 mins
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see added note :-)
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