Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
à sec
English translation:
to take out of the water
Added to glossary by
Ghyslaine LE NAGARD
Oct 24, 2005 05:35
18 yrs ago
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French term
à sec
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Ships, Sailing, Maritime
ships
... demander à XXX de procéder à un nouveau démontage de la ligne d'arbre bâbord (ce qui impose de remettre le bateau "à sec").....
Context : a technical report related to repairs on a yacht.
Thanks for your suggestions.
Context : a technical report related to repairs on a yacht.
Thanks for your suggestions.
Proposed translations
(English)
5 | take *** out of the water | Graham macLachlan |
4 +2 | dry dock | Richard Hedger |
5 +1 | haul out | Nikki Scott-Despaigne |
3 | "(in a) dry" (place or 'on dry land') | Protradit |
3 | which requires cradling | Bourth (X) |
Proposed translations
1 hr
French term (edited):
� sec
Selected
take *** out of the water
There are a myriad of ways of putting a boat "à sec": crane, slip, dry dock, low tide...
Eurasian Water Milfoil - June Creature of the Month -- Minnesota ...
Remove all plant materials from your boat, anchor, trailer and anything that
entered the water after you take the boat out of the water and before you leave ...
www.pca.state.mn.us/kids/c-june98.html
Membership Info
**If the last shift of the day is cancelled, shifts beforehand must be notified,
or else someone MUST go to the site to take the boat out of the water.** ...
www.stanford.edu/group/waterski/membership.html
WDFW -- Non-Indigenous Aquatic Nuisance Species
Boaters: Carefully inspect your boat, motor and trailer after you take the boat
out of the water and before you put it back in the water. ...
www.wdfw.wa.gov/fish/nuisance/ans3.htm
Water, Water Everywhere
Any discovery or invention which reduced the number of times we had to take the
boat out of the water (which averaged about every two years) would be ...
flatrock.org.nz/topics/ science/keeping_your_boat_dry.htm
Tug pioneer, Tribeca mom, restores ship
“We’re teaching them about working together well.” Last December, in order to
keep the Pegasus working well, Hepburn had to take the boat out of the water. ...
www.downtownexpress.com/de_44/tugpionnertribeca.html
Installing the Seats
(Figures 23 & 25) The holes will allow water to drain out as well when you take
the boat out of the water. The water level will match the level outside of ...
www.projectsandhobbies.com/sampletext.htm
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Note added at 2 hrs 34 mins (2005-10-24 08:10:25 GMT)
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As we're getting out the CVs: I've been sailing boats all my life, I've built and rigged boats in France and the UK, I have a boat licence, I've worked on square-riggers, motor yachts, fishing boats, cargo ships and dinghies, I've worked in two maritime museums and have written articles for the magazines Maritime Life and Chasse-marée. So na!
PS I've also put boats in Chatham dry dock, hauled them out on Polruan slipway, dried them out in Charlestown Harbour and lifted them out at Shotley Point. Double na!
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Note added at 2 hrs 54 mins (2005-10-24 08:29:48 GMT)
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Anyway, all this heavy-hauly talk is irrelevent because the text doesn't say how the yacht is to be removed from the wet stuff. It justs say that the boat must be taken out of the water to be repaired, whether it be on a slip, in a dry dock or lifted out by a crane.
Eurasian Water Milfoil - June Creature of the Month -- Minnesota ...
Remove all plant materials from your boat, anchor, trailer and anything that
entered the water after you take the boat out of the water and before you leave ...
www.pca.state.mn.us/kids/c-june98.html
Membership Info
**If the last shift of the day is cancelled, shifts beforehand must be notified,
or else someone MUST go to the site to take the boat out of the water.** ...
www.stanford.edu/group/waterski/membership.html
WDFW -- Non-Indigenous Aquatic Nuisance Species
Boaters: Carefully inspect your boat, motor and trailer after you take the boat
out of the water and before you put it back in the water. ...
www.wdfw.wa.gov/fish/nuisance/ans3.htm
Water, Water Everywhere
Any discovery or invention which reduced the number of times we had to take the
boat out of the water (which averaged about every two years) would be ...
flatrock.org.nz/topics/ science/keeping_your_boat_dry.htm
Tug pioneer, Tribeca mom, restores ship
“We’re teaching them about working together well.” Last December, in order to
keep the Pegasus working well, Hepburn had to take the boat out of the water. ...
www.downtownexpress.com/de_44/tugpionnertribeca.html
Installing the Seats
(Figures 23 & 25) The holes will allow water to drain out as well when you take
the boat out of the water. The water level will match the level outside of ...
www.projectsandhobbies.com/sampletext.htm
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Note added at 2 hrs 34 mins (2005-10-24 08:10:25 GMT)
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As we're getting out the CVs: I've been sailing boats all my life, I've built and rigged boats in France and the UK, I have a boat licence, I've worked on square-riggers, motor yachts, fishing boats, cargo ships and dinghies, I've worked in two maritime museums and have written articles for the magazines Maritime Life and Chasse-marée. So na!
PS I've also put boats in Chatham dry dock, hauled them out on Polruan slipway, dried them out in Charlestown Harbour and lifted them out at Shotley Point. Double na!
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Note added at 2 hrs 54 mins (2005-10-24 08:29:48 GMT)
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Anyway, all this heavy-hauly talk is irrelevent because the text doesn't say how the yacht is to be removed from the wet stuff. It justs say that the boat must be taken out of the water to be repaired, whether it be on a slip, in a dry dock or lifted out by a crane.
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Comment: "Thank you all."
+2
3 mins
French term (edited):
� sec
dry dock
the boat must be removed from the water
Peer comment(s):
agree |
SusanMurray
: Richard, in the at sea glossary http://www.chron.com/content/interactive/voyager/sail/glossa... you find dry dock where the definition starts with " a dock where a boat can be worked on out of the water. ..."
1 hr
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cheers. Perhaps not dry dock as for cruise liners
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neutral |
Graham macLachlan
: I think it unlikely that a yacht would go into a very expensive dry dock, yachts are generally hauled or craned out of the water
1 hr
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fair enough - I did mention that the boat must be removed from water
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disagree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: I'm afraid that there is no indciation in the original that the boat is going into dry dock "cale sèche"
1 hr
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fair enough - I did mention that the boat must be removed from water
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agree |
mannix
: seems perfectly clear in context (BTW, haul out does exist for yachts over 230').
1 day 5 hrs
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agree |
Mich Arsenault
6282 days
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28 mins
French term (edited):
� sec
"(in a) dry" (place or 'on dry land')
cale sèche is dry dock
'à sec' just means to get the boat dry again, on land or any other place, but not necessarily in a slip or dock
'à sec' just means to get the boat dry again, on land or any other place, but not necessarily in a slip or dock
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Analysis is right, but the right term is "haul out"
1 hr
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4 hrs
French term (edited):
� sec
which requires cradling
Taking the boat out of water presumably requires cradling it, unless the operation can be performed quickly while it is slung from a crane, and inversely, cradling requires removing the boat from the water.
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Classified listings boats for sale or charter from yacht brokers, ... storage contract includes pump out, bottom wash and labor for cradling the vessel. ...
www.yachtworld.com/glys/glys_5.html
A sledge is placed under the keel cradling the boat which is then towed by a tractor. ...
www.bodrum-bodrum.com/html/yachting/boatbuilding.htm
or maintenance and repair in boatyards, marinas, and in yacht construction. ... chart work, boat handling to include launch haul, and cradling of boats. ...
www.wccc.me.edu/amtb.html -
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Note added at 4 hrs 24 mins (2005-10-24 09:59:33 GMT)
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Classified listings boats for sale or charter from yacht brokers, ... storage contract includes pump out, bottom wash and labor for cradling the vessel. ...
www.yachtworld.com/glys/glys_5.html
A sledge is placed under the keel cradling the boat which is then towed by a tractor. ...
www.bodrum-bodrum.com/html/yachting/boatbuilding.htm
or maintenance and repair in boatyards, marinas, and in yacht construction. ... chart work, boat handling to include launch haul, and cradling of boats. ...
www.wccc.me.edu/amtb.html -
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Sauf auncune mention d'un ber ici...
3 hrs
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neutral |
Graham macLachlan
: agree with Nikki
3 hrs
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+1
2 hrs
French term (edited):
mettre à sec
haul out
Survey reports for nautical surveyors have been my bread and butter for the past 11 years.
- Dictionary of boating terms, Roussmanière
- Elsevier's nautical dictionary
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Note added at 2 hrs 32 mins (2005-10-24 08:08:12 GMT)
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Since 1998 I've been living and working in sailing related fields. 99% of my full-time client base is yachting related and I'm writing this from my office in La Trinité sur Mer, not even 100 m from the place where cruising and racing yachts are "mis à terre" regularly, and just opposite the Multipôle where multi-lingual teams have just put their machines back into the water in preparation for a big transat coming up.
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Note added at 4 hrs 0 min (2005-10-24 09:36:06 GMT)
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I agree that « haul » implies a horizontal movement. I also agree that in nautical terms too, “haul” has this sense. Similarly, the term “lift” would automatically suggest a vertical movement, but is also often used to describe the technique adopted on mechanically operated slipways where they are often towed out.
When a boat goes into her winter lay-up, original language texts also describe this as a boat’s “winter haul out” (cf. http://www.riverkeeper.org/campaign.php/pollution/we_are_doi...
What can I say to convince you that this is also THE generic term whether a boat is physically hauled or towed out, lifted by crane, lifted on or from a slipway or whatever and that it corresponds to the French generic “mettre à terre” all the more so when the method is not specified.
Examples in original English (GB & US) :
http://www.cowes.co.uk/cb/zone?p=story2;story_id=256;cp=
Ellen MacArthur's trimaran B&Q was lifted out of the water on Friday (13 May) and into the shed at Medina Yard in Cowes on the Isle of Wight. The haul out is to allow the shore team to undertake the repair work to the central bow which was damaged when the B&Q was struck by a Nelson launch in East Cowes Marina.
http://pressroom.clearwater.org/objects/view.acs?object_id=5...
http://www.njscuba.com/about_boat/haulout_2000.html
http://www.calboatlift.com/
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Note added at 7 hrs 44 mins (2005-10-24 13:20:05 GMT)
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Madtrad and I seem to disagree about the nitty gritty. As he says, the heavy-hauly stuff is probably irrelevant. The point you need to get across is that the boat is being removed from the water onto dry land.
A vous de jouer !
- Dictionary of boating terms, Roussmanière
- Elsevier's nautical dictionary
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Note added at 2 hrs 32 mins (2005-10-24 08:08:12 GMT)
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Since 1998 I've been living and working in sailing related fields. 99% of my full-time client base is yachting related and I'm writing this from my office in La Trinité sur Mer, not even 100 m from the place where cruising and racing yachts are "mis à terre" regularly, and just opposite the Multipôle where multi-lingual teams have just put their machines back into the water in preparation for a big transat coming up.
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Note added at 4 hrs 0 min (2005-10-24 09:36:06 GMT)
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I agree that « haul » implies a horizontal movement. I also agree that in nautical terms too, “haul” has this sense. Similarly, the term “lift” would automatically suggest a vertical movement, but is also often used to describe the technique adopted on mechanically operated slipways where they are often towed out.
When a boat goes into her winter lay-up, original language texts also describe this as a boat’s “winter haul out” (cf. http://www.riverkeeper.org/campaign.php/pollution/we_are_doi...
What can I say to convince you that this is also THE generic term whether a boat is physically hauled or towed out, lifted by crane, lifted on or from a slipway or whatever and that it corresponds to the French generic “mettre à terre” all the more so when the method is not specified.
Examples in original English (GB & US) :
http://www.cowes.co.uk/cb/zone?p=story2;story_id=256;cp=
Ellen MacArthur's trimaran B&Q was lifted out of the water on Friday (13 May) and into the shed at Medina Yard in Cowes on the Isle of Wight. The haul out is to allow the shore team to undertake the repair work to the central bow which was damaged when the B&Q was struck by a Nelson launch in East Cowes Marina.
http://pressroom.clearwater.org/objects/view.acs?object_id=5...
http://www.njscuba.com/about_boat/haulout_2000.html
http://www.calboatlift.com/
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Note added at 7 hrs 44 mins (2005-10-24 13:20:05 GMT)
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Madtrad and I seem to disagree about the nitty gritty. As he says, the heavy-hauly stuff is probably irrelevant. The point you need to get across is that the boat is being removed from the water onto dry land.
A vous de jouer !
Reference:
http://www.taylormarine.com/glossary/H.html
http://www.marinewaypoints.com/learn/glossary/glossary.shtml
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Sheila Hardie
9 mins
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neutral |
Graham macLachlan
: only in the context of a slipway, in your sense "haul" means "pull" whereas cranes "lift", at low tide boats are "dried out" and ships are "put" in dry dock, boats are also "put on the hard".// hauled out into a dry dock?
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Wrong I'm afraid. "Haul" usuually means - as it can in the sense of a slipway still mean "pull" - but "haul out" specifically applies for taking a boat out of the water, whatever the method, hauling, lifting, craning...
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