Glossary entry

français term or phrase:

gagner l\'enceinte

anglais translation:

board / be admitted / find their way onto

Added to glossary by Neal Allen
Mar 15, 2011 21:31
13 yrs ago
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français term

gagner l'enceinte

français vers anglais Affaires / Finance Tourisme et voyages
Context: Nous sollicitions de votre part, au nom de l’auteur, votre appui financier pour l’impression d’un bon nombre d’exemplaires destinés en partie de gagner l’enceinte du CELEBRITY X CRUISE pour une éventuelle Vente Signature.

Discussion

Bourth (X) Mar 16, 2011:
Même conclusion que Michel ayant lu entre les lignes, les mots, et les erreurs!
Michel F. Morin Mar 16, 2011:
Texte peu cohérent La rédaction du texte français manque de cohérence:
- on ne dit pas "destinés DE", mais "destinés A"...
- le terme "gagner" n'est pas approprié ici;
- s'il s'agit d'un navire nommé "CELEBRITY X CRUISE", alors le terme de "enceinte" ne convient pas;
- et s'il s'agit (comme je le crois) des bureaux, ou locaux commerciaux, d'une société de navigation CELEBRITY X CRUISE, alors soit le "du" devrait être "de", soit il manque un terme entre "du" et "CELEBRITY".

IMHO la phrase se comprend ainsi (best bet, I know): "... exemplaires destinés en partie à être mis en place dans l'enceinte de CELEBRITY..."
Neal Allen (asker) Mar 15, 2011:
More information The author wants financial assistance from the Company, Celebrity X Cruise, as the letter is addressed to this name. Consequently, they are not requesting admission to the ship. Perhaps, it is acceptance that they wish to gain for possible sale of signed copies of the book. I assume that a Vente Signature is the sale of signed copies.

Proposed translations

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board / be admitted / find their way onto

Essentially, I take this to mean gaining admission to (getting on board) the cruise. Many different options, though. Hopefully others will have some better solutions for you!

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Note added at 9 hrs (2011-03-16 07:07:48 GMT)
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Neil, for your information, my suggestions did refer to the books getting onto the cruise. However, I had understood the text as being from the cruise, not to it (it was late), so more of a deal of offering the prestige of sale onboard in exchange for a financial contribution toward the print costs. Sooo... having readjusted my thinking, I'm now leaning more toward "will be available for purchase at an onboard book signing and sale" or "will be brought onboard for a book signing and sale". Something like that...
Peer comment(s):

agree Sheila Wilson : your last option sounds good to me
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be placed on board

Laurel has the right idea, but we're talking about some kind of printed materials (signed books, perhaps?), so I don't think her suggested translations are appropriate. You could also say "for onboard sale on the cruise".
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be placed on the premises

Not a ship, but whether head office or port facilities or other I have no idea. Unless the author is plugging for an all-expenses-paid cruise just so she can sign books.

"Celebrity X Cruises" brings up nothing but porn (not port) sites.
Note from asker:
Try Celebrity Century X Cruise. That brings up the cruise line. They appreviate it in the letter and leave out the word, Century.
Sorry -abbreviate. Typed it too fast.
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earn a place/acceptance

in Celebrity X Cruises eventually leading to the sale of signed copies on board

I am taking meaning of "enceinte" as "within" here, getting accepted into the heart/bosom of cruiseline

I think Phil has the right idea about possible onboard sales but this option leaves it a bit more vague as in original... unless you know that they are going to sell these on board as soon as they are printed? Presumeably the author feels these books will be to their mutual benefit if s/he is are asking for financial help for the printing.
BTW the lines certainly have a variety of cruise types and destinations.
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to be placed within

The simpler the better, I believe...

See discussion !
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