Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
en temps et en heure
English translation:
in due time
Added to glossary by
Amy Grieve
Apr 7, 2004 20:49
20 yrs ago
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French term
en temps et en heure
French to English
Other
Transport / Transportation / Shipping
logistics
... une consolidation des couts de revient correcte en temps et en heure.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 +2 | in due time |
JH Trads
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| 5 +3 | On schedule |
zaphod
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| 4 +2 | COMMENT |
CMJ_Trans (X)
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| 4 | in due course |
Tony M
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| 5 -1 | in hours per time period |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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| 1 | NOT FOR GRADING |
Tom Bishop
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Proposed translations
+2
2 mins
Selected
in due time
HTH
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when necessary
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when required
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when necessary
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when required
Peer comment(s):
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SMLS
5 mins
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thanks :-)
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Vicky Papaprodromou
43 mins
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thanks :-)
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Hervé du Verle
1 hr
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thanks :-)
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Tom Bishop
: "in due time" can be ambiguous, also having the sense of "eventually" ("in the fullness of time"), which might not be appropriate in this context.
2 hrs
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thanks, I beg to differ as "en temps et en heure", as "en temps voulu" "also" can have the second meaning you attribute to "in due time" :-)
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Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: ce n'est pas assez vite pour le ''bizness" in due time; ça colle pas au contexte, AMA
1 day 24 mins
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks - this is what I used in the end!"
5 mins
in due course
is the version given by Robert & Collins, and which I prefer; though beware that it seems sometimes to be used (sloppily?) more like 'on time'
Peer comment(s):
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Tom Bishop
: I agree with your reserve. "on time" seems far more appropriate in context.
2 hrs
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1 hr
On schedule
What else? Why complicate you life?
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Tom Bishop
: Or "on time" - tout simplement.
1 hr
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Merci
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sarahl (X)
2 hrs
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Merci
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Tony M
: Though this may imply a more formal degree of 'scheduling' than actually intended; and we must remember the accepted dictionary definition is at odds with our understanding of the term...
9 hrs
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Yeah it could be in terms of time and motion or time and funds
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laurawheeler
11 hrs
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Merci
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2 hrs
Tom Bishop
Native in English
Works in field
Technical and commercial translations
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
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2
NOT FOR GRADING
A few examples from the web that would not fit into a comment box. I think that all of these permit of only one interpretation: on time/on schedule.
France 5 : Les maternelles - Achats en ligne (Les cybermarchés) - [ Translate this page ]
... Est-ce facile ? Est ce que ça coûte moins cher ? Suis-je sûr d'être livré en temps et en heure ? Et, en cas de problèmes, à qui m'adresser ? ...
www-org.france5.fr/maternelles/ multimedia/W00294/1/86387.cfm - 59k - Cached - Similar pages
Rédaction de procédures pour la Birmingham Midshires - étude de ... - [ Translate this page ]
Rédaction de procédures pour la Birmingham Midshires en français magyarul
in English. ... Livraison en temps et en heure à toutes les étapes du projet. ...
www.kudos-idd.com/ case_studies/Procedure_writing_solution_for_Birmingham_Midshires_FRENCH.asp - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
Thales - Press - [ Translate this page ]
English. ... tv » et en a assuré la conception, la fourniture, l’intégration technique et fonctionnelle ainsi que sa mise en exploitation en temps et en heure. ...
www.thalesgroup.com/press/press_releases/ 2_7316_236_10330.html?no_nav=false - 18k - 7 Apr 2004 - Cached - Similar pages
Agrafes, Aiguilles, Amélioration Architucturelle, Ancrages, Axes ... - [ Translate this page ]
... Gràce à l'inventaire de nos matières premières, nous sommes capables de livrer nos produits en temps et en heure, évitant un surplus de materiaux d ...
www.mbwindia.com/profilefrancais.htm - 10k - Cached - Similar pages
France 5 : Les maternelles - Achats en ligne (Les cybermarchés) - [ Translate this page ]
... Est-ce facile ? Est ce que ça coûte moins cher ? Suis-je sûr d'être livré en temps et en heure ? Et, en cas de problèmes, à qui m'adresser ? ...
www-org.france5.fr/maternelles/ multimedia/W00294/1/86387.cfm - 59k - Cached - Similar pages
Rédaction de procédures pour la Birmingham Midshires - étude de ... - [ Translate this page ]
Rédaction de procédures pour la Birmingham Midshires en français magyarul
in English. ... Livraison en temps et en heure à toutes les étapes du projet. ...
www.kudos-idd.com/ case_studies/Procedure_writing_solution_for_Birmingham_Midshires_FRENCH.asp - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
Thales - Press - [ Translate this page ]
English. ... tv » et en a assuré la conception, la fourniture, l’intégration technique et fonctionnelle ainsi que sa mise en exploitation en temps et en heure. ...
www.thalesgroup.com/press/press_releases/ 2_7316_236_10330.html?no_nav=false - 18k - 7 Apr 2004 - Cached - Similar pages
Agrafes, Aiguilles, Amélioration Architucturelle, Ancrages, Axes ... - [ Translate this page ]
... Gràce à l'inventaire de nos matières premières, nous sommes capables de livrer nos produits en temps et en heure, évitant un surplus de materiaux d ...
www.mbwindia.com/profilefrancais.htm - 10k - Cached - Similar pages
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Well done Tom! I couldn't agree more! The theoretical dictionary definition does not seem to be born out by real, everyday usage as I am familiar with it; dodgy, as the distinction between 'in due course/at some point/eventually' and 'on time' is vital!
7 hrs
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Thanks Dusty
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Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: it's the French way of saying "just-in-time". I just realized that...
15 hrs
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Thanks :-)
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9 hrs
COMMENT
I have just read the question and the various answers and what strikes me is that the sentence is ambiguous in French. WHAT is "en temps et en heure"? Is it the cost calculated to the nearest minute or is it the delivery of the figures at the right or appropriate time?
If you gave us the whole sentence, the context might help us to ascertain which of these (or other) options is correct. You would be given more suitable answers as a result. Most of what is said above is correct but it all depends on the way you read the sentence
HTH
If you gave us the whole sentence, the context might help us to ascertain which of these (or other) options is correct. You would be given more suitable answers as a result. Most of what is said above is correct but it all depends on the way you read the sentence
HTH
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: I feel happy enough that it is the 'consolidation...correcte' that is 'on time', but agree that the incomplete fragment only adds to the ambiguity
55 mins
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| agree |
Tom Bishop
1 hr
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| neutral |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: just-in-time.....:)
9 hrs
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-1
30 mins
in hours per time period
is what I would say....30 hours a week
40 hours a month
two hours a day...for exame
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I realize this is an \"expression\" but in answer to colleagues, this is COSTING or cost accounting. I have never heard of consolidating prices in due course, on schedule, in due time...I think they are referring to the kind of breakdown of costs....I think it refers to the categories of the breakdown of the costing...
Example of costing:
Etablir des points de repère économiques
Puis nous allons définir une grille analytique détaillée de coût de revient par type d\'activité, afin d\'établir cinq points de repère économiques :
- Coût de l\'heure moteur
- Coût de l\'heure du véhicule tracté
- Coût de l\'heure de conducteur
- Coût variable kilométrique
- Coût global kilométrique
3) Analyser la gestion sociale
Enfin nous allons relever les temps de service des conducteurs des derniers mois de Mars, Juillet et Octobre, afin d\'analyser la gestion sociale :
- ****Répartition des temps par conducteurs*** (équilibre ou déséquilibre ?)
- Vitesse commerciale
- Productivité
- Impact économique sur la masse salariale
Avec les exploitants :
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I JUST REALIZED WHAT THIS IS:
final; just-in-time
the way you say it in French
just-in-time consolidation of costs...
JUST IN TIME
TRANSLATION IS A PROCESS AND SOMETIMES ONE DOESN\'T GET IT ON THE FIRST GO AROUND
\\JUST-IN-TIME IS THE WAY TO GO!!
Cheers
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Note added at 18 hrs 9 mins (2004-04-08 14:58:34 GMT)
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dictionaries are behind the times. Go check it out...:) :)
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My instincts told me with regard to cost, costing and cost accounting that there was NO WAY, this could mean timely, in due course etc.
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Note added at 18 hrs 13 mins (2004-04-08 15:02:31 GMT)
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Look, JUST-IN-TIME SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGEMENT!!
Results 1 - 10 of about 78,000 for gestion chaîne en temps et en heure. (0.70 seconds)
Gestion de la chaîne d\'approvisionnement - PME / PMI - France ... - [
... fortement les uns des autres que jamais, ***la gestion de la chaîne d\'approvisionnement ... et
au marketing soient fournies à vos partenaires en temps et en heure*** ...
www.cisco.com/global/FR/solutions/ smb/ecosystem/scm/scm_home.shtml - 44k - Cached - Similar pages
That my friends is just in time supply chain management!
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Note added at 18 hrs 14 mins (2004-04-08 15:03:25 GMT)
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Notice. this is CISCO translated into French. If you go to the original in ENGLISH, you will see....
40 hours a month
two hours a day...for exame
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Note added at 16 hrs 47 mins (2004-04-08 13:36:24 GMT)
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I realize this is an \"expression\" but in answer to colleagues, this is COSTING or cost accounting. I have never heard of consolidating prices in due course, on schedule, in due time...I think they are referring to the kind of breakdown of costs....I think it refers to the categories of the breakdown of the costing...
Example of costing:
Etablir des points de repère économiques
Puis nous allons définir une grille analytique détaillée de coût de revient par type d\'activité, afin d\'établir cinq points de repère économiques :
- Coût de l\'heure moteur
- Coût de l\'heure du véhicule tracté
- Coût de l\'heure de conducteur
- Coût variable kilométrique
- Coût global kilométrique
3) Analyser la gestion sociale
Enfin nous allons relever les temps de service des conducteurs des derniers mois de Mars, Juillet et Octobre, afin d\'analyser la gestion sociale :
- ****Répartition des temps par conducteurs*** (équilibre ou déséquilibre ?)
- Vitesse commerciale
- Productivité
- Impact économique sur la masse salariale
Avec les exploitants :
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Note added at 18 hrs 7 mins (2004-04-08 14:56:36 GMT)
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I JUST REALIZED WHAT THIS IS:
final; just-in-time
the way you say it in French
just-in-time consolidation of costs...
JUST IN TIME
TRANSLATION IS A PROCESS AND SOMETIMES ONE DOESN\'T GET IT ON THE FIRST GO AROUND
\\JUST-IN-TIME IS THE WAY TO GO!!
Cheers
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Note added at 18 hrs 9 mins (2004-04-08 14:58:34 GMT)
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dictionaries are behind the times. Go check it out...:) :)
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Note added at 18 hrs 10 mins (2004-04-08 14:59:22 GMT)
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My instincts told me with regard to cost, costing and cost accounting that there was NO WAY, this could mean timely, in due course etc.
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Note added at 18 hrs 13 mins (2004-04-08 15:02:31 GMT)
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Look, JUST-IN-TIME SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGEMENT!!
Results 1 - 10 of about 78,000 for gestion chaîne en temps et en heure. (0.70 seconds)
Gestion de la chaîne d\'approvisionnement - PME / PMI - France ... - [
... fortement les uns des autres que jamais, ***la gestion de la chaîne d\'approvisionnement ... et
au marketing soient fournies à vos partenaires en temps et en heure*** ...
www.cisco.com/global/FR/solutions/ smb/ecosystem/scm/scm_home.shtml - 44k - Cached - Similar pages
That my friends is just in time supply chain management!
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Note added at 18 hrs 14 mins (2004-04-08 15:03:25 GMT)
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Notice. this is CISCO translated into French. If you go to the original in ENGLISH, you will see....
Peer comment(s):
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Tom Bishop
: It's simply a stock phrase meaning "on time".
2 hrs
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it's not that; it means in a TIMELY MANNER if anything!
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