Jul 25, 2002 06:48
21 yrs ago
Japanese term
United States
占有 ・ 所有
Japanese to English
Tech/Engineering
telecommunications, broadband
Hi all.
I am having to distinguish between 占有 and 所有 in the context of granting licenses in the telecommunication industry. These two words will be used separately as category labels.
占有 is in the context of granting 占有 content licenses for demo purposes etc..
所有 is in the context of granting 所有 content licenses for retail purposes etc..
I translated 占有 as "access" and 所有 as "possession" but I would very much appreciate a second (or third!) opinion.
Thanks much in advance!
I am having to distinguish between 占有 and 所有 in the context of granting licenses in the telecommunication industry. These two words will be used separately as category labels.
占有 is in the context of granting 占有 content licenses for demo purposes etc..
所有 is in the context of granting 所有 content licenses for retail purposes etc..
I translated 占有 as "access" and 所有 as "possession" but I would very much appreciate a second (or third!) opinion.
Thanks much in advance!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 | 占有possession, 所有ownership |
Nobuo Kawamura
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| 5 +4 | Exclusive Access and Ownership |
Pro-Japanese
|
| 5 | senyu=occupy: shoyu=possess |
Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.)
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| 2 +1 | Personal vs Proprietary |
Yakugo (X)
|
Proposed translations
22 hrs
Nobuo Kawamura
Japan
Japan
Native in Japanese
Japan
professional translator since 2001
Native in: Japanese 
Works in: English to Japanese, Italian to Japanese, Spanish to Japanese, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
483
Selected
占有possession, 所有ownership
「所有」を別とすれば「占有」は優越する権原と解されます。
2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "THanks for your help. I ended up going with my initial translation: access and possession per a conversation with the client - in this case (contect) ownership wasn't appropriate since the license does not grant the user to "own" the content on their receiver indefinitely - only temporary. I guess the context was difficult to explain on this one - sorry - but your explantion was absolutely correct. "
+4
40 mins
Pro-Japanese
Canada
Canada
Native in English
Canada
Professional, Accurate, and Satisfaction
Native in: English
Works in: Japanese to English, English to Japanese
Related KudoZ points
:
79
Exclusive Access and Ownership
I would look at 占有 as "exclusive access", because the term means to take possession, as in "exclusive possession".
And 所有 as "ownership".
And 所有 as "ownership".
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Kaori Myatt
: Exactly
1 hr
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| agree |
Norina (X)
1 hr
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| agree |
MNakata45
4 hrs
|
| agree |
Shuji Ishise
: That's right.
14 hrs
|
| neutral |
ejprotran
: I agree with you in that 所有 is "Ownership." But, "Exclusive Access" has broader meanings to it.
1 day 11 hrs
|
+1
8 hrs
Personal vs Proprietary
Without knowing the exact rights being granted by the two types of license, it is impossible to say what the appropriate translations of the terms would be.
In the absence of that information, I would guess "personal, non-transferrable" for the first term and "proprietary" for the second.
In the absence of that information, I would guess "personal, non-transferrable" for the first term and "proprietary" for the second.
3 days 16 mins
Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.)
Thailand
Thailand
Thailand
EN-TH-JP: large volume tech/buzz/legal
Native in: Thai
Works in: English to Thai, Japanese to Thai, Thai to English, and 8 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
576
senyu=occupy: shoyu=possess
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