Why technology is key to overcoming the language barrier
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| | neilmac
Spain
Local time: 23:48
Spanish to English
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| First impression | Aug 19, 2012 |
"First, it enables translation at a level where it does not need to involve a human"... ??!
I'm afraid this doesn't sound like good news to me, a mere human.
Caveat emptor.
| | | | ATIL KAYHAN 
Türkiye
Local time: 00:48
Member (2007)
Turkish to English
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| Translation w/o Human | Aug 19, 2012 |
"First, it enables translation at a level where it does not need to involve a human."
I do not think we will ever come to a point at which translation will not involve a human. This is because translation is both an art and a science.
| | | | Nicole Schnell
United States
Local time: 14:48
English to German
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In memoriam
Another example: Technically, no human being needs another human being to fulfill their sexual needs.
Jonathan Lichtman is an IT person who, like many others in this particular industry, has apparently has lost track of the real world.
| | | | Lingua 5B
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Local time: 23:48
Member (2009)
English to Croatian
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" translation is important because it facilitates multilingual communication and allows people from around the world to better understand one another culturally, economically and socially. "
Yes, it's exactely the machine (without any human involvement) that will explain and demonstrate the cultural/social nuiances.
These people seemed to have involved money (and time) into the machine translation technology and are now using quite absurd or contradictory arguments to p... See more " translation is important because it facilitates multilingual communication and allows people from around the world to better understand one another culturally, economically and socially. "
Yes, it's exactely the machine (without any human involvement) that will explain and demonstrate the cultural/social nuiances.
These people seemed to have involved money (and time) into the machine translation technology and are now using quite absurd or contradictory arguments to prove their points and justify the investement.
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| Colombus sailing to the north pole | Aug 19, 2012 |
'Right now a really exciting innovation is the integration of machine translation (MT) and automatic speech recognition (ASR) technology (Apple’s SIRI is an example of ASR) into one platform.'
I've repeatedly wondered why people try to solve two nearly (or perhaps ultimately) intractable problems at the same time. It's as though Colombus were to hold a meeting on the deck of the Niña to announce that sailing to the Indies wasn't enough of a challenge and that he intended to make a ... See more 'Right now a really exciting innovation is the integration of machine translation (MT) and automatic speech recognition (ASR) technology (Apple’s SIRI is an example of ASR) into one platform.'
I've repeatedly wondered why people try to solve two nearly (or perhaps ultimately) intractable problems at the same time. It's as though Colombus were to hold a meeting on the deck of the Niña to announce that sailing to the Indies wasn't enough of a challenge and that he intended to make a detour to the north pole first to really cement his place in the history books. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Pursuing ideal MT, SAIC will discover an ideal human | Aug 19, 2012 |
and an ideal candidate to be launched to Mars (forever  )
| | | | | Why technology is key to overcoming time travel | Aug 21, 2012 |
I use a MCB (Machine Crystal Ball) to predict the future.
In the future, freelance translators and real language professionals forced to use MTs by agencies that want to "increase productivity" (i.e. increasing their income while reducing their payroll, which is, what you earn per word) by automatizing incoherently "perfect" machined (sic) so-called low cost text solutions (damn sic) will be treated as fast food industry underpaid, underbrained employees with no rights and no dignity,... See more I use a MCB (Machine Crystal Ball) to predict the future.
In the future, freelance translators and real language professionals forced to use MTs by agencies that want to "increase productivity" (i.e. increasing their income while reducing their payroll, which is, what you earn per word) by automatizing incoherently "perfect" machined (sic) so-called low cost text solutions (damn sic) will be treated as fast food industry underpaid, underbrained employees with no rights and no dignity, and ultimately, no job.
Language, at last, will succumb to the urges of a society who will have consumed its alphabets into a single, universally understandable character: $.
Then the Sun will become a Red Giant and Earth will be joyfully and definitively engulfed and destroyed.
Only a few wealthy ones will be saved on a star ship cruising the space with the hope of finding unknown planets to be colonized, abused and desecrated with increased productivity and higher revenue.
The universe will freeze. Everything will come to an end.
This comment was sponsored by Big Machine Global Balls, making your life duller since you didn't care about it when we warned you, now stfu, grin and bear, and starve, and pay us, and be thankful we don't screw you even more, and we will if you don't do something to stop us. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Why technology | Aug 22, 2012 |
Ernesto Du Solier wrote:
Only a few wealthy ones will be saved on a star ship cruising the space...
Ernesto, it's exactly at this step when we will badly need very fast and very efficient MT, I think.
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| Why technology | Aug 24, 2012 |
Gennady Lapardin wrote:
Ernesto, it's exactly at this step when we will badly need very fast and very efficient MT, I think.
Rest assured that I definitively won't make it, ;]
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| | | | | Why two problems at once | Aug 24, 2012 |
Richard Bartholomew wrote:
'Right now a really exciting innovation is the integration of machine translation (MT) and automatic speech recognition (ASR) technology (Apple’s SIRI is an example of ASR) into one platform.'
I've repeatedly wondered why people try to solve two nearly (or perhaps ultimately) intractable problems at the same time. It's as though Colombus were to hold a meeting on the deck of the Niña to announce that sailing to the Indies wasn't enough of a challenge and that he intended to make a detour to the north pole first to really cement his place in the history books.
The problems are probably deeply connected - in order to make them realy work, you have to understand the text. The problem of ASR is that the speech realy doesn't contain all the information one would need to produce text. So you have to guess the missing pieces based on context and to do this you have to understand the text, make hypothesis and select the most probable variant. I don't think even a human could accurately write down a speech in language he doesn't know. For good result in MT, you also have to understand the text to predict which sense of a word is the right one. And recognise the hidden meaning.
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